General question for all players

[New_Hope]

Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

[Plyxx]

Yeah,let's all quit and go play Hello Kitty!

[Doc_Wormwood]

No, I'm not.

[Space_Ace]

Ahahaha.. Oh you're serious?

AHAHAHAHAHAHA.

(for the record, I recall reading that this game in total has buffed almost twice as much as it has nerfed. I saw it in an Arcanaville thread, it has to be true. So no, let the balancing commence!)

[fallenz]

What nerfing?

[Space_Ace]

Going back through his previous posts, he's complaining about the AE exploit fixes ( at least in the last two posts he is).

Either that or he's a time traveler that has found out that Going Rogue is going to have ED2: Electric Boogaloo in it.

It's really either or, but gun to my head I'd have to say it's the first one.

[Justaris]

No, I'm not, because there've been more buffs than nerfs and plenty of free new content steadily coming out for us, the players. Someone not too long ago went to the trouble of cataloging the buffs and nerfs in the history of the game to demonstrate this truth.

As for the recent AE "nerf", when an exploit is corrected, that's not a nerf. That's a fix. Exploiting bugs is cheating, it's not a playstyle and it's not acceptable. I'm just sorry that it took so long for the Devs to take action to shut it down.

[MunkiLord]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

[/ QUOTE ] I get tired of stupid threads like this, but I don't go around complaining. You should be more like me.

[BrandX]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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What nerfs?

Or do you mean, tired of things getting fixed? No. Not tired of that at all. *wish they'd fix the character info screen*

[FourSpeed]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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Let's see... I went through Burn Tanker nerf (in Beta), Purple Patch, ED and GDN...

This??? This is nothing... Heck, I've barely even run any AE missions at all...

My most MArc active toon has amassed... ~4000 tickets - total... ;)

This isn't even on my radar yet...


Regards,
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[Lightfoot]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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Not at all.

I love this game, and I want to see it survive all of its competition.

That means that outliers that trivialize the game and that are bad for the game's long term health need to be fixed.

It sucks when your pet whatever gets hit by this, but the reason it is the flavor of the month is because it is too good. When you seek out the FOTM, you should understand that you are doing so and enjoy it while it lasts, because it can't last forever (otherwise, it would be the Flavor of Forever, which is extremely bad for any game).

[Clave_Dark_5]

Everyone who responded to this thread should be ashamed of themselves! :mad:

Oh wait...

[Crime_of_Fashion]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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Yep, those stalker and war mace nerfs sucked!

What a second, those were buffs!

And they ruled!

Back to your bridge vile troll beast

[wikked]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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You were a lot more verbose in the other two posts you made complaining about the "nerfs" to MA.

[milehigh77]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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Silly n00b.

[Thirty-Seven]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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What nerfs? Oh, and did you mean "please"?

[Thirty-Seven]

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Everyone who responded to this thread should be ashamed of themselves! :mad:

Oh wait...

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If it makes you feel better: I am ashamed... oh wait... you were joking. But I am still ashamed. :(

[Bill Z Bubba]

Game nerfs? Have we had any since ED and the GDN?

[Catwhoorg]

Nothing globally like that, outside of the PvP areas, and that was most definately a chnage where some were raised up and others brought down.

Individual sets have of course been tweaked up and down, but thats to be expected to get better balance overall.

Defence IO set bonuses got that major buff, such that all have both a positional and typed component, so that cant be it.

Maybe the OP dislikes Defiance 2.0 compared to 1.0, which is a valid but a minority view. Blasters are certainly more fun for me under 2.0, and perform their role of arresting badguys at high speed admirably.

Im thinking someone just peed in his cornflakes, which is obviously the fault of Paragon Studios.

[Frostweaver]

I am just getting tired of the game, period. Nerfs and buffs notwithstanding.

[Doctor_Grass]

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I am just getting tired of the game, period. Nerfs and buffs notwithstanding.

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this.

[Catwhoorg]

So take a break, and then come back (or not).

Burnout is very common in every MMO, sometimes you just get tired of the same game all the time.

Try a different MMO, try an offline game, break out your console, or do something non-gamey.

[NekoNeko]

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ED2: Electric Boogaloo

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This alone is worth the price of admission of this thread. ;)

[Feihung]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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I don't know of any true nerfs...so no I am not tired of the game...

Am I allowed to still speak my mind?

If so, did you know MLB umpires have to wear black underwear?

[LostHalo]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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I made my namesake DM/Regen at release. I'm still playing. Maybe it has something to do with the possibility I'm a little more reasonable and willing to look at things from perhaps beyond my limited perspective to see where things stand.

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That said, I really do wish "risk vs. reward" would truly be renamed "time vs. reward".

[Infatum]

Some day, when classes in basic logical thinking are a mandatory part of our school system we won't have threads like this anymore...

A guy can dream right?

[Frostweaver]

the funny thing is, 100 years ago classes in logical thinking WERE a standard part of almost every curriculum.

boy, we have come so far in such a short time (/sarcasm)

[Dispari]

I dream of a nerfless game, where when one set outperforms the others, instead of slightly reducing the power of that set, you simply buff EVERY OTHER SET. Then when you introduce a new set (Willpower) that turns out to be stronger, you simply buff FIFTEEN OTHER SETS. And you keep doing this until all sets are capable of soloing Hamidon, and you have to adjust the power of every single enemy in the entire game just so that they can keep up, and we end up with enemies that deal damage in the thousands with regular hits just so all the numbers balance out.

That would be way better than having to suffer "nerfs" !!!

[Frostweaver]

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I dream of a nerfless game, where when one set outperforms the others, instead of slightly reducing the power of that set, you simply buff EVERY OTHER SET. Then when you introduce a new set (Willpower) that turns out to be stronger, you simply buff FIFTEEN OTHER SETS. And you keep doing this until all sets are capable of soloing Hamidon, and you have to adjust the power of every single enemy in the entire game just so that they can keep up, and we end up with enemies that deal damage in the thousands with regular hits just so all the numbers balance out.

That would be way better than having to suffer "nerfs" !!!

[/ QUOTE ]

This is called 'control by positive feedback'

Feel free to look up why it doesn't work :)

[ClawsandEffect]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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I got tired of the Nerf a long time ago. There comes a point when shooting your friends with foam pellets just ceases to be fun.

[Mr_Right]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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I got tired of the Nerf a long time ago. There comes a point when shooting your friends with foam pellets just ceases to be fun.

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LIES! There is NEVER a point where it just ceases to be fun. There is, how ever, a point where you Grow Up. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8HMSf4O2FM)

[Sailboat]

Shouldn't this "general question to all players" be in the "Player Questions" section?

The answer, by the way, is that many of the nerfs have improved or even outright saved the game. We are much better off than in Issue 1, for example.

And I frankly don't get what devoted farmers are upset about. They can still crank out rewards faster than casual players, which is the driving force to farm, isn't it? Just to get more faster? You can still do that, just not at light speed.

[Red Valkyrja]

*sigh*

*cough* *cough*

*clears throat*

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[Kelenar]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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What nerfs?

Or do you mean, tired of things getting fixed? No. Not tired of that at all. *wish they'd fix the character info screen*

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STOP TRYING TO NERF MY WALL OF TEXT.

[Bunny_Slippers]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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I don't know of any true nerfs...so no I am not tired of the game...

Am I allowed to still speak my mind?

If so, did you know MLB umpires have to wear black underwear?

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I ... did not know this. I'm also not sure I want to know how you know this....

[Barata]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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What nerfs? For quite a while now, nerfs have been very minor or rare, and have been outnumbered by buffs. If you're referring to MA, it doesn't even count. They made those changes just weeks after it was released. It's very common for a totally new game mechanic to go through changes like that early on. It isn't part of the game long enough to be considered as standard.

And in the meantime, we've had tons of buffs. Exp was buffed, debt was decreased, leveling speed is faster than ever, more rewards have been added to the game, powers have been buffed...

Seriously, cries of "NERF!" are totally unwarranted and is why you don't see them much over the last couple years.

[BigFish]

My Blasters got buffed...

My Stalkers got buffed...

These "nerfs" of which you speak, I know them not :confused:

[Afterimage]

What nerfs?

Nope.

[AquaJAWS]

Its repeated threads like this that make me hope for the next powerset to be added by the devs to be some kind of nerf dart gun blaster set, so we can go around nerfing anything we want to.

[Calash]

They fixes not nerfs.

[MunkiLord]

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debt was decreased

[/ QUOTE ] Debt was nerfed :( That makes me a sad panda :(

[Dragonhide]

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Its repeated threads like this that make me hope for the next powerset to be added by the devs to be some kind of nerf dart gun blaster set, so we can go around nerfing anything we want to.

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God I hope NERF GUN is a weapon option for pistols...

And thread? Nope, no nerfs worth talking about in my experience.

[Talen Lee]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

[/ QUOTE ]*hands you a little paper cup*

[Xalaqia]

Yeah I'm tired of Nerf Games. We've moved from Nerf guns to Paintball and Airsoft. They actually leave bruises and welts. Manly!

[Ultra_Violence]

If by nerfs you mean fixing broken parts of the game, then no I'm not quite tired of that yet.

[Battlebabe]

I'm tired of fools who whine and kick and scream when an exploit is fixed. That is what I am tired of.

[Lord Mordeth]

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I'm tired of fools who whine and kick and scream when an exploit is fixed. That is what I am tired of.

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[Mr_Right]

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I'm tired of fools who whine and kick and scream when an exploit is fixed. That is what I am tired of.

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[Bill Z Bubba]

I know I shouldn't do this, but:

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I'm tired of fools who whine and kick and scream when an exploit is fixed. That is what I am tired of.

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[HelinCarnate]

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I know I shouldn't do this, but:

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I'm tired of fools who whine and kick and scream when an exploit is fixed. That is what I am tired of.

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This

[HelinCarnate]

Really when dual pistols comes out they should have a nerf gun option.

[Snakebit]

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I dream of a nerfless game, where when one set outperforms the others, instead of slightly reducing the power of that set, you simply buff EVERY OTHER SET. Then when you introduce a new set (Willpower) that turns out to be stronger, you simply buff FIFTEEN OTHER SETS. And you keep doing this until all sets are capable of soloing Hamidon, and you have to adjust the power of every single enemy in the entire game just so that they can keep up, and we end up with enemies that deal damage in the thousands with regular hits just so all the numbers balance out.

That would be way better than having to suffer "nerfs" !!!

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Hey! That's what the left wing of Congress is doing! Hooray for debt!

[Schismatrix]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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I don't know of any true nerfs...so no I am not tired of the game...

Am I allowed to still speak my mind?

If so, did you know MLB umpires have to wear black underwear?

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i did not know that. Also, i do not feel my life has been enriched by learning this.

Well, this would be a real small thread limited to people who are butthurt* about MA fixes and who don't understand the common definition of the term nerf if only people who agreed with the OP posted here.
So yes, you are allowed to speak your mind.

*That's a terrible portmanteau employed by socially and literately inept misanthropes. Never use that word. Ever.

[Nethergoat]

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Are you getting tired of the game nerfs? If so, plaese speak your mind here.

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I got tired of regen nerfs and ED pushed me over the edge, so I quit for a while.

Came back for CoV, nothing since has enraged me to the point of cancellation. The current devs have a better grip on the game than the last bunch.

[Mythmaker]

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Going back through his previous posts, he's complaining about the AE exploit fixes ( at least in the last two posts he is).

Either that or he's a time traveler that has found out that Going Rogue is going to have ED2: Electric Boogaloo in it.

It's really either or, but gun to my head I'd have to say it's the first one.

[/ QUOTE ]

I rarely laugh out loud at something someone posts in the forums.

This made me LMFAO. :D

[rian_frostdrake]

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I dream of a nerfless game, where when one set outperforms the others, instead of slightly reducing the power of that set, you simply buff EVERY OTHER SET. Then when you introduce a new set (Willpower) that turns out to be stronger, you simply buff FIFTEEN OTHER SETS. And you keep doing this until all sets are capable of soloing Hamidon, and you have to adjust the power of every single enemy in the entire game just so that they can keep up, and we end up with enemies that deal damage in the thousands with regular hits just so all the numbers balance out.

That would be way better than having to suffer "nerfs" !!!

[/ QUOTE ]i hate to have to ask this, but this is an mmo forum, so...this was intentionally ironic, right?

edit, oh and am i sick of nerfs..well, lets see, my main is a ma scrapper, a set that got buffed a bit ago, hes also a sr which got some nerfs but also got some really good io bonuses in issue 9, and the elusivity buff, so lets call that a wash, and a plant dom, who is getting a buff in the next issue apparently, but already god a very good fix back in the day when mez resistance was added to domination. so yeah, not feeling significantly nerfed here, also my keld and stalker feel a good bit more robust than on their start dates as well. in fact the devs seem to be throwing me some nice upward adjustments on my powers quite regularly, so if this is nerfing, nerf my (self-censored) and call me sally.

[Dispari]

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I dream of a nerfless game, where when one set outperforms the others, instead of slightly reducing the power of that set, you simply buff EVERY OTHER SET. Then when you introduce a new set (Willpower) that turns out to be stronger, you simply buff FIFTEEN OTHER SETS. And you keep doing this until all sets are capable of soloing Hamidon, and you have to adjust the power of every single enemy in the entire game just so that they can keep up, and we end up with enemies that deal damage in the thousands with regular hits just so all the numbers balance out.

That would be way better than having to suffer "nerfs" !!!

[/ QUOTE ]i hate to have to ask this, but this is an mmo forum, so...this was intentionally ironic, right?

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Yes, it was completely sarcastic. It's totally unreasonable to expect a game to never nerf anything. The alternatives would be to A) have things that are clearly overpowered that you can't do anything about, or B) continually buff EVERYTHING except the overpowered stuff which would take a thousand times more work and effort.

Take, for instance, you have 200 glasses of water and they're supposed to be equal at 50% capacity. One of the glasses is a little over, at about 60%. Does it make more sense to just pour some out, or to add more water to every single other glass? And if you're taking the no-pour approach, what happens when you accidentally overfill one to 65%?

[Schismatrix]

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Take, for instance, you have 200 glasses of water and they're supposed to be equal at 50% capacity. One of the glasses is a little over, at about 60%. Does it make more sense to just pour some out, or to add more water to every single other glass? And if you're taking the no-pour approach, what happens when you accidentally overfill one to 65%?

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Take a few sips while no one's looking and blame the dog.

[rian_frostdrake]

ok cool, i figured it looked like it, but as i said this IS an mmo forum and...ya know...

[Dispari]

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Take, for instance, you have 200 glasses of water and they're supposed to be equal at 50% capacity. One of the glasses is a little over, at about 60%. Does it make more sense to just pour some out, or to add more water to every single other glass? And if you're taking the no-pour approach, what happens when you accidentally overfill one to 65%?

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Take a few sips while no one's looking and blame the dog.

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The dog nerfed my glass of water!!

[Schismatrix]

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Take, for instance, you have 200 glasses of water and they're supposed to be equal at 50% capacity. One of the glasses is a little over, at about 60%. Does it make more sense to just pour some out, or to add more water to every single other glass? And if you're taking the no-pour approach, what happens when you accidentally overfill one to 65%?

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Take a few sips while no one's looking and blame the dog.

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The dog nerfed my glass of water!!

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It was a stealth nerf. (Actually, i had a Scrapper who dropped Stealth when they added stealth suppression. At least the stealth nerf wasn't a stealth nerf.)