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Anglican

11-10-2006, 03:02 PM

My favorite was a long time ago, in I3 I think. Was on a pug, ~level 15-18 in the hollows, on one of the missions of kill all critters in the cave (igneous, I think). Well, this one blaster has over agro'd stuff and died inspite of my tank taunting and attempting to agro control throughout the mission. Celarly, he lacked any idea of tactics or pulling for limited agro.

Anyway, this blaster almost caused a team wipe, and tempers were climbing. We got to a large round room with tons of critters. This blaster said "watch this" and went flying into the area, triggered the alpha, and ate an obscene amount of boulders and ranged damage. It was enough damage to likely wipe the whole team 3 or 4 times over, as he agro'd like 4 separate spawns.

Over team channel I asked "wow, was that on purpose?". The reply was "no."

Osiris_Dagon

11-10-2006, 03:14 PM

I have a great n00b story for you ... mind you it is in the appropriate n00b setting ... a bank farm. So we go into the bank, full 8 person team. As soon as I zone into the area there is one of my team mates ... a lvl 8 corruptor. Instead of waiting for the entire team, he throws a fireball into a +2 mob. He dies of course, I run out of the door cause I am not stupid. Then I tell the rest of the team to get out. I tried to politely explain to him that fireball draws too much aggro for a corruptor to handle solo. He says, " whats aggro? " LMAO

Now that is n00b, no matter how you look at it ... that is n00b.

Edit- I don no how to spell :(

Rakeeb

11-10-2006, 03:17 PM

The ideal way of pulling is to send in a MasterMind's disposable heroes (villains?) to deal with the mobs. That way they can take the hit for the team rather than a player.

As a MM player myself, I almost always send the bots somewhere a little far from the team and then have them attack from a different angle, to limit AoE splash and accidental aggro -- with Group Fly I'm really appreciative of the skies for that purpose. But that's just me.

Captain_Freak

11-10-2006, 04:34 PM

I pulled with nova. Twice. Didnt die either time. Was funny and i didnt kill anything.....or even really hurt the antimatter bots........+4 or more to me.

Good times.

Midgardener

11-10-2006, 05:09 PM

1st Stormie: You know what this room needs?
2nd Stormie: More aggro?
1st Stormie: More aggro.
Both Stormies: PULL WITH TORNADO!!!

Gawd, I wish I could find the post that this was an excerpt from. :D

SBeaudway

11-10-2006, 06:08 PM

Or, gee, perhaps you could have lowered the mission difficulty to something more appropriate for TO equiped characters. And you called the Corr a NOOB! Sheesh!

Glizzot

11-10-2006, 06:20 PM

heh.... i pull with fireball all the time!!!!! LOL, granted i do it and bolt around a corner and start spamming warmth. BUT its when i team with a /traps rupptor. I want the whole mob to get into the poison trap range and let the mortars go to work.

I used to get all juiced up slaughtering mobs on a team with my tank. i would just bounce group to group and take alphas, get healed whatever. NP right. every single mission when there was an EB I would NEVER see it just merrily bounce on in like im the stuff....then im like wow...why is my health yellow...wait...how come there are no circles spinning around my def toggles....wait. whats that window say? Go to hospital? [censored]. :) . Did i learn? hell no. I still do it. its all that i cant be beat adrenaline pumping in my veins... mixed with that i'm playing at 0200 and prolly drunk, virtual beer muscles. heh all i say after i die is...."uh, that sucked...anyone got a rez? :) " And thats on 40+ toons... tanks and brutes hehehehehe.

However the most noobish thing i see nowadays is stalkers who insist on opening up encounters with AS. Im like dude dont do that... their like [censored] i can do it. Then if im on my ruptor... im like listen dude... my res dont recharge that fast. How do these people level? i mean the debt. 4 deaths in one mission and still same tactics? Geezus.

JusticeZero

11-10-2006, 06:31 PM

First, i'm guessing the group was in view of the mobs when the fireball hit. That's a total n00b mistake there, and not a pull. Fireballs are actually a very good tool to pull, if you're actually PULLING and not just "opening from range", often confused with pulling. It gets one group to seperate from the room and come to the ambush spot where they can easily be dealt with by a Dominator/Controller AOE.

Many of the noob mistakes I see involve people ignoring the contributions of other players. For instance, it was pretty ridiculous watching a tank, blaster, and two scrappers in the Hollows wipe to one third of a spawn of Trolls while the two Defenders fruitlessly kept yelling at them to come into the clouds, where they were successfully tanking the other 2/3 of the mob.

I've learned to dread Controllers with AOE immobilize powers too; far too often have we arranged a mob to march into a tight ambush, only to have fire cages sprout up locking the mob in a scattered space firing on us guarded by the extra spawns we were working so hard to seperate them from.

Empaths standing around doing exactly nothing for the stretches of a mission when we're not taking significant damage annoy the hell out of me too. Do they really think i'm stupid enough to not notice that their 'total focus to their primary' involves squirreling away power picks in minimally effective power pools and putting lots of extra slots in pointless nonsense things just so they can claim nothing was left to get any soft controls or contributory damage?

Jetpack

11-10-2006, 07:10 PM

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Anyone else care to share some crazy noob stories?

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There was this poster, who kept saying NOOB this, NOOB that, in all of posts.

What a NOOB, eh?

ValkyrieRising

11-10-2006, 07:17 PM

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Or, gee, perhaps you could have lowered the mission difficulty to something more appropriate for TO equiped characters. And you called the Corr a NOOB! Sheesh!

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Psst... Ryu wasn't the team leader. His rep wasn't jacked up.

gbaji

11-10-2006, 07:25 PM

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However the most noobish thing i see nowadays is stalkers who insist on opening up encounters with AS. Im like dude dont do that... their like [censored] i can do it. Then if im on my ruptor... im like listen dude... my res dont recharge that fast. How do these people level? i mean the debt. 4 deaths in one mission and still same tactics? Geezus.

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Well. To be fair though, that's how they'd do it solo. And it *is* how they level. A stalker who doesn't open with AS when soloing is pretty much tossing away his main advantage.

And this highlights what is really the number one problem with pugs. Many players simply don't understand that when playing in a group, you want to use different tactics then those that you use (and which work) when soloing. A stalker is going to always use AS to open a fight when soloing. But in a group, he's going to want any one other then him to open up the fight, stay hidden and non-agro, then use AS during the fight to great advantage. A scrapper when soloing will typically hop into a spawn and go to town. When in a group, he'll likely splatter doing that, needing to either rely on buffs to manage, or play a clean up roll and let the tanker tank. Blasters will usually want to start a fight with a snipe and then close in with either AEs and/or melee attacks when soloing, but when in a group are much more effective holding off on the damage for a second or three until the NPCs are better arranged for maximum effectiveness.

All ATs require a reasonable degree of strategy change when grouping instead of soloing. Bad players and/or new players often just don't realize that. They continue using the same tactics that they use when soloing. Usually to disasterous effect for the group...

Fyrecracker

11-10-2006, 08:30 PM

I once teamed with a blaster (who kept complaining he had too much debt) who jumped over three scrappers and a tank to *brawl* a +4 Freak tank.

It takes all kinds -- I hope that guy liked the taste of floor wax.

Sahary_Terr

11-10-2006, 11:10 PM

__*quick reply*__

*sighs* Who's the n00b? the new players that still don't know how the game works or the 'elite' that have 8 50 lvl toons and think they can abuse the newbies?? From this post, I see many a n00b that tries to hide by undermine players that may be learning...

the true definition of a n00b, by the way, is that of a player that does not learn, or that refuses to learn from either experience, research or advice... and I see some in the posters,not on the postee's...

Zen_Concern

11-10-2006, 11:20 PM

When you want those ten guys over there, to seperate from the other group of ten guys over there you tell the group to get back, let loose a well placed AoE attack, and get out of LoS behind the group.

All the mobs come and the group can wipe them out, if the group is really handy, they will utilize LoS as well, Immobilize the group with only some of them in LoS while the rest use AoE ranged attacks to hit those out of LoS but around the corner. Safe, and consistent.

So, was it the corruptor or the team in this case that was the noob? Maybe the team didn't have any debuffers (although they had a rad), or enough damage mitigation but one spawn should't wipe a group out unless the team is either sub-par or incompitant and if this was the first group that the group took on, then the corruptor may not have known what kind of group he was pulling for.

I am trying to say that we have a lack of communication here.

Borea

11-10-2006, 11:46 PM

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1st Stormie: You know what this room needs?
2nd Stormie: More aggro?
1st Stormie: More aggro.
Both Stormies: PULL WITH TORNADO!!!

Gawd, I wish I could find the post that this was an excerpt from. :D

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That would be me and tempest_56 in action. I think he made that post. :)
Good stormies can afford to be crazy at times.

Dersk

11-10-2006, 11:55 PM

Who's more newbish? The newb, or the person who follows him?

I_do_VoOdOo

11-10-2006, 11:55 PM

Well this one time I made a fire corruptor and took fire ball and fire rain and aoe pulled all the time to piss people off.

<_<
>_>
j/k :p

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1st Stormie: You know what this room needs?
2nd Stormie: More aggro?
1st Stormie: More aggro.
Both Stormies: PULL WITH TORNADO!!!

Gawd, I wish I could find the post that this was an excerpt from.

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Hehe, I don't know why, but this made me laugh a lot :D

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Many of the noob mistakes I see involve people ignoring the contributions of other players. For instance, it was pretty ridiculous watching a tank, blaster, and two scrappers in the Hollows wipe to one third of a spawn of Trolls while the two Defenders fruitlessly kept yelling at them to come into the clouds, where they were successfully tanking the other 2/3 of the mob.

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This reminds me of my /rad controller tanking about 10 or so mobs while the rest of the team dealt with the others, I just stood there, /newspaper'd and asked them when they'd be done with them. Afterwards the tank said 'good healing'. Which confused me because here I was tanking the greater part of the spawn and the tank needed heals? :confused:

Ah well, makes for fun times either way. :D

polarpanda

11-11-2006, 03:03 AM

Critiques of team tactics aside, I'll see your 'pull with a fireball' story and raise you a 'I'll use rain of fire to pull.'

Your move.

Celestial_Fury

11-11-2006, 03:27 AM

In the end , when you die , its your own mistake . I mostly only play with PuGs and when i see that things arent going well , i leave. And i will certainly withdraw in a middle of a fight if things are turning bad. Some players tends to just stay there , hoping for a miracle to happen and they die . Then they complain. Only you can control your own character , thus you are responsible of his wellfare before everyone else. But of course, blaming the N00b is easyer than blaming oneself i believe :)

Chieta_Corps

11-11-2006, 03:41 AM

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In the end , when you die , its your own mistake . I mostly only play with PuGs and when i see that things arent going well , i leave. And i will certainly withdraw in a middle of a fight if things are turning bad. Some players tends to just stay there , hoping for a miracle to happen and they die . Then they complain. Only you can control your own character , thus you are responsible of his wellfare before everyone else. But of course, blaming the N00b is easyer than blaming oneself i believe :)

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Sure you can say that but you can also put it this way.

If the person in question(the noob) had not set in to motion the events that caused the team wipe you wouldn't HAVE to run away. Some players would rather go down fighting than run away and leave anyone to die.

I'm like that, I'd rather die once for each member of my team than have them die but thats just how I play though.

All in all theres going to be folks that agree with the OP and those that will defend the "noob" and those that will question the ability of the OP and the team he was with.

Oh and whats up with this?

Dersk Said:
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Who's more newbish? The newb, or the person who follows him?

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Looking at that made my head hurt.

Ar_Kain

11-11-2006, 08:20 AM

I was invited to a PUG the other day. Most of the members were of the same SG, lvl 50's or so. Mobs were at 52 and Praetorian.
I knew we were in trouble from the start when the tank started herding 1 spawn to a second group. As soon as he got the second groups agro half of the first group would stop, usually with the main body of the PUG inbetween.
During this time I had a RL friend over and I was explaining what he (the tank) was doing wrong. As he did it over and over many deaths ensued.
Disgusted I got up to get something to drink and when I came back my friend had proceeded to tell him he was a bad teammate and why. Ended up being the only time I was ever kicked from a group, AFTER they used me for my debuffs on the AV. I sent the leader a short, little message; ,l,,
So you see, nOObs come at ALL levels. :p

I_do_VoOdOo

11-11-2006, 11:39 AM

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Critiques of team tactics aside, I'll see your 'pull with a fireball' story and raise you a 'I'll use rain of fire to pull.'

Your move.

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Rain of Fire one mob, Fire Ball a second, Breath of Fire a third, all at once. Game, set, match! :p

Vel_Overload

11-11-2006, 12:34 PM

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1st Stormie: You know what this room needs?
2nd Stormie: More aggro?
1st Stormie: More aggro.
Both Stormies: PULL WITH TORNADO!!!
Gawd, I wish I could find the post that this was an excerpt from. :D

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My god i had that experience one.... it was funny as hell when both of our earth/sotmr controllers decided to take away the control.

Note: with 2 earth/storm controllers, you can handle anything, assuming they don't use tornado...

Dveight

11-11-2006, 12:55 PM

pulling with an AoE is useful if your team already knows they can handle the entire spawn and they're trying to pull the whole group away from a second, nearby group. But if your intent was to pull 1 or 2 mobs away because that single spawn alone is too much for your team, then yeah, pretty dumb move.

Incidentally, I still find that the majority of players aren't aware of the fact that single target ranged attacks that either knockback or DoT as a secondary effect tend to draw aggro and make bad pull powers. I teamed with several eng and fire blasters at high levels that said after I told them about this, "holy crap, I always wondered why my pulls hardly ever work well"

ValkyrieRising

11-11-2006, 12:58 PM

Odd, my fire blasters have never had problems pulling singles...

Lighthouse_NA

11-11-2006, 02:15 PM

I remember well all the newbies when City of Heroes first came out. I really loved that about the game. You could tell it was opening up the MMO genere to a whole slew of people who had never played one before.

I'd get into a pick up team and be, "Ok, hang here I'll pull the mobs to us." only to be met with "umm what's a mob?" or "you're pulling what??" or even "dude, stop pulling your finger" Tankers that scrapped, Defenders who played like Blasters, Scrappers who wanted to be Tanks, etc. etc. I made some great friends and while sometimes frustrating, that newbieness was a lot of times a refreshing change :)

I just wanted to chime in that if you take the time to stop and politely help someone understand the tactics more, or are open to people who want to tell you about their own tactics, a lot of times you can make a good addition to your friends list. In short, ya gotta lub da newbs!

Of course, some jerk who plays like a fool and gets everyone killed and won't listen to anyone is certainly a pain. I usually play a bit more conservatively with a new pick up group to test the waters before I open myself up for the rollercoaster ride to Debt City :p

Ice_Ember

11-11-2006, 02:24 PM

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I remember well all the newbies when City of Heroes first came out. I really loved that about the game. You could tell it was opening up the MMO genere to a whole slew of people who had never played one before.

I'd get into a pick up team and be, "Ok, hang here I'll pull the mobs to us." only to be met with "umm what's a mob?" or "you're pulling what??" or even "dude, stop pulling your finger" Tankers that scrapped, Defenders who played like Blasters, Scrappers who wanted to be Tanks, etc. etc. I made some great friends and while sometimes frustrating, that newbieness was a lot of times a refreshing change :)

I just wanted to chime in that if you take the time to stop and politely help someone understand the tactics more, or are open to people who want to tell you about their own tactics, a lot of times you can make a good addition to your friends list. In short, ya gotta lub da newbs!

Of course, some jerk who plays like a fool and gets everyone killed and won't listen to anyone is certainly a pain. I usually play a bit more conservatively with a new pick up group to test the waters before I open myself up for the rollercoaster ride to Debt City :p

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Come play with the Pingus some, the debt fades and it is really funny when you get some...

Siolfir

11-11-2006, 02:24 PM

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I saw this and decided I'd have to share some of my own noobiness. Of course, these aren't always representative of my play (in fact I've been complimented quite a few times by teams I've been on) but some days are better than others.

1. "Pulling" with Ring of Fire. :o Oops! In reality, it was just next to power bolt, and I was tired and barely paying attention and just hit the wrong button. But it was funny! At least this one was solo.

2. After playing the elec/elec brute for three days, switching to the ice/kin corruptor of similar level. And using the same playstyle. Triple-stacked siphon speed and double-stacked siphon power makes /kins do stupid things. :D

3. Attempting to save a PuG (against mobs +3 to me) by drawing aggro on myself with a lvl 11 stalker :eek:. You go squish fast as a /regen with just recon and TOs. Oddly enough the two respites I had didn't save me from the two-hit kill from the boss. :( On a brighter note, my sacrifice did not go in vain - a /dark corruptor lived to res the rest of the team with Howling Twilight. And if I would've lived a little longer I would've been close enough to the pile of dead teammates to get hit by it, too! :confused: But I got a wakie from one of them.

Ultimus

11-11-2006, 02:32 PM

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I remember well all the newbies when City of Heroes first came out. I really loved that about the game. You could tell it was opening up the MMO genere to a whole slew of people who had never played one before.

I'd get into a pick up team and be, "Ok, hang here I'll pull the mobs to us." only to be met with "umm what's a mob?" or "you're pulling what??" or even "dude, stop pulling your finger" Tankers that scrapped, Defenders who played like Blasters, Scrappers who wanted to be Tanks, etc. etc. I made some great friends and while sometimes frustrating, that newbieness was a lot of times a refreshing change :)

I just wanted to chime in that if you take the time to stop and politely help someone understand the tactics more, or are open to people who want to tell you about their own tactics, a lot of times you can make a good addition to your friends list. In short, ya gotta lub da newbs!

Of course, some jerk who plays like a fool and gets everyone killed and won't listen to anyone is certainly a pain. I usually play a bit more conservatively with a new pick up group to test the waters before I open myself up for the rollercoaster ride to Debt City :p

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Scrappers were tanks back in the day. They could cap defense and resists with invul or get around 3200% regen with Regeneration.

JollyRoger

11-11-2006, 02:33 PM

I miss that, to an extent. Now you seem to have people doing neat things with the ATs that they've learned over the years (using Blasters' melee attacks, or utilizing the control-type powers with Scrappers and Tankers). I always despised the lame names people came up with for that, though. I mean, Blappers? That sounds ridiculous ("Aw, who blapped?" :o)! No, you're a Blaster who's actually using your Secondary powers!

To an extent, I think CoV is still in the "newb" phase. The ATs are much more complex/less straightforward than the CoH ones, and they've got a steeper learning-curve. Masterminds are a great example - they're an extremely flexible AT, almost like Kheldians in their ability to shift between tanking & damage-dealing.

Finally, I think the number-one mistake people make, is trying to liken the ATs to character-classes from other games. It just doesn't work that way. Defender != healer, Blaster != mage, etc. To use those comparisons detracts from the flexibilities of CoX's ATs! :D

Texas Justice

11-11-2006, 02:53 PM

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Odd, my fire blasters have never had problems pulling singles...

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/signed

Luerim12

11-11-2006, 04:23 PM

Well, I've got a "Stupid Noob" story. Humbly enough, I'll even admit that the noob was... Me.

One of my first characters was a fire/fire blaster. I'd mostly soloed with him until he was 6th level and got rain of fire. Loved that power in solo play. As a soloer with only ranged attacks, it made sense to disperse the mobs. I'd target my feet with it, and pick off the mobs as they ran away.

I ended up in this pick up group about half-way through 6th level. I'd barely been on any teams with that character. We got a mish in an office building, somewhere in the Hollows, I think. I'd not seen a lot of tankers before this, since the I5 nerf was coming down the pipe soon, and if there were any tankers they were all busy getting PLed before it hit live.

On this team was tanker, though. We hit our first spawn. He runs in, and suddenly: He's surrounded! Those baddies are going to kill him! So what did I do? I dropped rain of fire at his feet. The mobs disperse all right. Then they regroup on me. I face planted real quick. And there was still debt at level 6 then. :P

I understood aggro, I just didn't understand that anybody would actually want to attract it. :)

Abysmalyxia

11-11-2006, 05:01 PM

As I sit here I reminisce about the halcyon days when CoH was a noob. When it was inexperienced. When it had never known the joys of my presence.

And then... I arrived.

It took the game a while to adapt and adjust to my playstyle. There were times of learning... and times of relearning.... and some things that need to be relearned again. When I was displeased with my ice blaster I spoke with statesman about sending the development team north for "re-education" until they understood the nature of ice, and of what an ice blaster should be.

Still, I wouldn't call the game a stupid noob. How could it anticipate dealing with someone of my caliber?

The short answer? It couldn't.

Understanding this I was reasonably patient with the devs and the community at large. I would dispense intellectual beatings as I saw fit, and the community would thank me and ask for another (Why do you think people troll my threads. No, really. Think about it.).

So, I have to say I have no stupid noob story to relate.

Lady_Tara

11-11-2006, 05:11 PM

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I remember well all the newbies when City of Heroes first came out. I really loved that about the game. You could tell it was opening up the MMO genere to a whole slew of people who had never played one before.

I'd get into a pick up team and be, "Ok, hang here I'll pull the mobs to us." only to be met with "umm what's a mob?" or "you're pulling what??" or even "dude, stop pulling your finger" Tankers that scrapped, Defenders who played like Blasters, Scrappers who wanted to be Tanks, etc. etc. I made some great friends and while sometimes frustrating, that newbieness was a lot of times a refreshing change :)

I just wanted to chime in that if you take the time to stop and politely help someone understand the tactics more, or are open to people who want to tell you about their own tactics, a lot of times you can make a good addition to your friends list. In short, ya gotta lub da newbs!

Of course, some jerk who plays like a fool and gets everyone killed and won't listen to anyone is certainly a pain. I usually play a bit more conservatively with a new pick up group to test the waters before I open myself up for the rollercoaster ride to Debt City :p

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Come play with the Pingus some, the debt fades and it is really funny when you get some...

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No sane individual should ever have to put up with that insanity. Just say no to Pingus. ;)

DMenacer

11-11-2006, 06:15 PM

I was in a team just the other night playing a 22nd level Ice/Emp Controler with a Ice/Storm controler, a Tanker, 2 Scrappers and 2 Blasters. I would throw a Ice Slick right into the middle of the mob and watch the Tanker and Scrappers run in a defeat all of them awhle they bounced up and down from repeatively falling. I then would freeze any of the mob at stayed out of the Ice Slick shooting at the melee slaughter happening in the ice slick. The Blasters stood back and took out the onces that I had frozen. During this time the other controler used his Steamy Mist to hide him and the Blasters before he took over the freezing so I could pull back into the Steamy Mist and start the healing where necessuary. This worked perfect and we ran through a few missions in a hurry without any problems. After a couple of hours the other controler had to leave and we got a new one to replace him. After a hard fight there we almost got wiped out I had to explain to the new Controler that he shouldn't freeze the once bouncing up and down on the Ice Slick but the onces not on it. That the ones on the Ice Slick couldn't shoot awhile they are bouncing but the frozen ones still could because they were frozen awhile still standing. With his freeze on top of my freeze, the ones left standing were now completey frozen making them just as easy to slaughter for the Blasters as the ones bouncing were for the Tanker and Scrappers. Sometimes all it takes is explaing your reason for your tactics for them to understand why it was being done that way. Now he wants the Ice Slick power for his Controler because he is a noob no more.

Epiphoid

11-11-2006, 06:32 PM

I agree with you there Lighthouse. During the latest 2-week trial event I was in Atlas and someone who was trying out Co* with the trial asked me a question. One thing led to another, and now he is in my supergroup and he bought 3 copies for himself, his wife and his kid. :D

Cheetatron

11-11-2006, 06:55 PM

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We were all newbies at one point. You just need to have patience with them. Giving out constructive criticism can really help someone out.

[/ QUOTE ]Often times people will just tell you no to "Tell them how to play"

Pure_Massacre

11-11-2006, 07:05 PM

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As I sit here I reminisce about the halcyon days when CoH was a noob. When it was inexperienced. When it had never known the joys of my presence.

And then... I arrived.

It took the game a while to adapt and adjust to my playstyle. There were times of learning... and times of relearning.... and some things that need to be relearned again. When I was displeased with my ice blaster I spoke with statesman about sending the development team north for "re-education" until they understood the nature of ice, and of what an ice blaster should be.

Still, I wouldn't call the game a stupid noob. How could it anticipate dealing with someone of my caliber?

The short answer? It couldn't.

Understanding this I was reasonably patient with the devs and the community at large. I would dispense intellectual beatings as I saw fit, and the community would thank me and ask for another (Why do you think people troll my threads. No, really. Think about it.).

So, I have to say I have no stupid noob story to relate.

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Wow.... I actually hope this is a joke. But something tells me it isn't.

Angel_Heart

11-11-2006, 09:17 PM

I have a couple story's to tell.

When the game first came out and everyone was making there favorite marvel characters, I made wolverine and had just turned lvl 6 or 7, anyway i went into perez park for the first time and somehow managed to jump over the wall right into a mob of hellions... (just like wolverine would have done) but sadly the outcome wasn't like in the comics :eek:

And yes even after you play the game for 2 years and know everything you still will make noob mistakes...

Our sg decided to do the tf in firebase zulu against Ruluuka (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/LordSnake71/RuluukaCantspell.jpg) ? i can't remember his name off hand was long time ago, anyway we contunied the tf the next day since people were tired, and only 4 of us show'd, 3 tanks (Fire/Stone, Invuln./SS, and me Ice/SS) and a blaster.
Needless to say we took him on w/ that combo, was before DE btw. After many deaths, think in the 10-12 range we finally got a stragegy that worked, since i was an ice tank (at that time ice tanks sucked) and i just taunted from a distance while shooting my epic eye beems, the other 2 tanks who could survive the damage were up close beating on him and the blaster was as far back as possible behind me blasting away, after at least 15 mins. of fighting we brought him down but was still a bad way to take on an AV.

not necessarily a noob story but was very funny...
Ok me and my sg mates, think we had 4-5 that night were fighting COT in a cave (setting was the hardest also i believe)
and like always we were chatting on teamspeak. Well someone just happens to make a joke just as the girl in our sg was eating carrots (keep in mind she was in a car accident a month before and had a broken rib) anyway she starts coughing choking and goes off teamspeak, then a few mintues later her boyfriend comes back and ask's "[censored] happend, your killing her!" After awhile when she's better we all start talking again about it and found out she'd been eating carrots and they shot out her nose and stuff. So someone makes the comment of "Salad Shooter Hoooo!" and we all start laughing... We kept laughing so hard i couldn't breath, the one guy was puking, and the girl who had taped up ribs said the tape came off she was laughing so hard... Regarless we tried to keep playing and who knows how we survived the rest of the missions laughing for the next 30 minutes.
(One of the most memeorable times on coh)

Darkhouse

11-11-2006, 11:05 PM

was just in the sewers... told a /elec blaster to pull... so he fires off electirc cages.

Prof_Backfire

11-12-2006, 02:38 AM

The time the Stalker went ahead to 'scout' and ran back screaming with around 20 Goldbrickers on her tail.

Made a pretty cool 'last stand' though, with just me and another Mastmind firing away...

OoBe_

11-12-2006, 03:45 AM

Noob stories?

When I first started CoH, it was my second mmog. My first was FFXI and I didn't understand that much at first. The first day I played City of Heroes, I started out as a gravity controller in Galaxy City and I heard someone cry out for help.

I freaked out and thought,"NO [censored]! Here is my chance to be a HERO! I've never been a hero before!"

I ran as fast as I could to the Hellion and wailed on him! Bam!!
Pow!
Kerplunk!!!
These sounds were running through my mind as I beat the living day lights out of the men trying to steal the woman's purse. Afterwords the NPC said ask me how she could repay me...

I stood there for a second wondering what to say, and instantly came up with the best reply ever.

"How about a date?"

Sadly, she ran away. I tried to catch her.... but I lost her down an alleyway. After a few more of these situations I realized they won't talk back. I honestly thought I was saving real players.

/e sigh on my level two controller. My first character ever in City of Heroes stories. I eventually learned the lingo such as herding, pulling, and "AMbusH!". I remember when playing FFXI, I tried talking to an NPC for 5 minutes before someone pointed out that they don't reply. I thought computer games were so much more advanced at that time. :)

<3,
Completely Oblivious.

ValkyrieRising

11-12-2006, 09:27 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Our sg decided to do the tf in firebase zulu against Ruluuka (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/LordSnake71/RuluukaCantspell.jpg) ?

[/ QUOTE ]
I believe that is Ruladek... One of the coolest AV encounters hero-side.

You were close ;)

Katrina_Gatsby

11-12-2006, 09:40 AM

Thank you LightHouse, it seems to me that many have forgotten that at one point, they were noob themselves. It is sad really to see people putting down a new player who asks a simple question about the game and have their question answered by "read the forums" or "look it up you noob". I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't had a kind soul explain things to me when I first came to the game. It helps that there is not a HELP chat where people can go to have their questions answered without all the negative flavor; I have noticed that if a question is asked in HELP that there are actually people who will explain things without all the negetivity. I digress though. I guess I just wanted to say thanks for helping to remind that the only stupid question is the one not asked.

ValkyrieRising

11-12-2006, 10:25 AM

There's a difference between newb and noob. What the OP ran into was a newb, a new player. Someone that doesn't understand how the game works yet. A noob is someone that doesn't want to learn, doesn't want to listen, but behaves, often times, in a similar fashion to a newb.

Learn to figure out who are the newbs and who are the noobs, and do your best to help.

DorianBlack

11-12-2006, 10:51 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I join a villain PUG. This was a low level team around level 10. The mission owner had their rep jacked to the max so everything was red or purple to most of us. So I made the suggestion that one of the corrupter should pull. So the fire/rad guy says ok he will pull. Guess what this guy uses to pull with? FIREBALL!!! :mad: I am like omg why would you pull with an aoe? The team ended up wiping. When we all got back from the hospital I pulled this time. Everything went well after that. I soon left after this mission was over. Anyone else care to share some crazy noob stories?

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I was on a low level villain PUG and the leader had his rep on the second highest. After 3 wipes I asked why a lvl 5 group should go on Relentless and he said "because it's the best." I tried to explain that it's only good if you can get through it quickly. If everyone wipes out on the first fight without a single kill, it's no good. You should wait until better enhancements make you strong enough to kill high level mobs. Well, he wouldn't hear it. "Relentless is the best."

Another team with the same villain, I got bored so I went to the closest mission and started mopping up. When it was almost cleared, I told the group that I was about to come out so we could reset, but it was a very low level mish (everything was grey to me, and I was the lowest level member) so it would probably be best for the team if I just cleared and we did something else. The leader got pissed and kicked me from the team instantly for "already killing before we're there!!!?" So then I /petitioned him for having the name Raistline Majere, a blatant ripoff of the Dragonlance anti-hero. So who was the A--hole in that story, him or me?

Epiphoid

11-12-2006, 11:25 AM

I went about 24 levels (to the first respec) on my first character, Earth/FF, without knowing I should take both of the single target shields :). When I respec'd I switched out Salt Crystals :p.

pipper

11-12-2006, 02:16 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Noob stories?

When I first started CoH, it was my second mmog. My first was FFXI and I didn't understand that much at first. The first day I played City of Heroes, I started out as a gravity controller in Galaxy City and I heard someone cry out for help.

I freaked out and thought,"NO [censored]! Here is my chance to be a HERO! I've never been a hero before!"

I ran as fast as I could to the Hellion and wailed on him! Bam!!
Pow!
Kerplunk!!!
These sounds were running through my mind as I beat the living day lights out of the men trying to steal the woman's purse. Afterwords the NPC said ask me how she could repay me...

I stood there for a second wondering what to say, and instantly came up with the best reply ever.

"How about a date?"

Sadly, she ran away. I tried to catch her.... but I lost her down an alleyway. After a few more of these situations I realized they won't talk back. I honestly thought I was saving real players.

/e sigh on my level two controller. My first character ever in City of Heroes stories. I eventually learned the lingo such as herding, pulling, and "AMbusH!". I remember when playing FFXI, I tried talking to an NPC for 5 minutes before someone pointed out that they don't reply. I thought computer games were so much more advanced at that time. :)

<3,
Completely Oblivious.

[/ QUOTE ]

ROFL!!!

Angel_Heart

11-12-2006, 03:13 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Our sg decided to do the tf in firebase zulu against Ruluuka (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/LordSnake71/RuluukaCantspell.jpg) ?

[/ QUOTE ]
I believe that is Ruladek... One of the coolest AV encounters hero-side.

You were close ;)

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah thx, like i said we took a few to many hits to the head to remember his name that night :D

Bendagon

11-12-2006, 03:44 PM

Once, in the early days of CoV, two friends and I were partying with an EM stalker, right. She was pretty new to MMOs in general, so she's doing some scouting and reports that a couple of mobs are hanging out behind some crates, right.

So my girlfriend's like "oh OK" and hops her stone/fire brute self over the crates to, well, SMASH and lo and behold there's like three spawns of five over there. We... didn't know at the time how new to MMOs and online gaming in general the stalker was, so when she (the stalker) said "mob" we, you know, thought she meant mob, when in fact she meant mob.

With pitchforks, torches, and grenade launchers because I think they were Council or Sky Raiders or something like that. And hell, at the time I was playing my rad/kin corruptor and in fairly early levels, so all I could really do was fire up repel and run screaming + blasting in a pretty broad circle so brute 2, my girlfriend's sister, could drop things as they aggroed onto myself and the stalker.

Anyway, there's my newb story. Not really a n00b story, just.. miscommunication, I guess.

Oh and there's the time I was powerlevelling my fire/fire tank with a kheldian and six completely new players on invincible. That's not as funny though. Just... kind of tragic.

Seyda

11-12-2006, 08:56 PM

I've had some horror stories with n00bs, and I've also had some great experiances with newbies. Way to many to detail.

I thought that this (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20060823) was a good description of my experiences with players that aren't quite what someone would think.

Silver Gale

11-13-2006, 01:50 AM

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I just wanted to chime in that if you take the time to stop and politely help someone understand the tactics more, or are open to people who want to tell you about their own tactics, a lot of times you can make a good addition to your friends list. In short, ya gotta lub da newbs!

Of course, some jerk who plays like a fool and gets everyone killed and won't listen to anyone is certainly a pain. I usually play a bit more conservatively with a new pick up group to test the waters before I open myself up for the rollercoaster ride to Debt City :p

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I really wish people wouldn't use "newb" and "n00b" interchangably. There's a very useful distinction to be made there.

Dersk

11-13-2006, 02:06 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I really wish people wouldn't use "newb" and "n00b" interchangably. There's a very useful distinction to be made there.

[/ QUOTE ]

...one that is not readily apparent to those not bathed in the internet's popular culture. My highschool literature classes failed to prepare me for such distinctions.

Ethereal_Savior

11-13-2006, 06:18 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Of course, some jerk who plays like a fool and gets everyone killed and won't listen to anyone is certainly a pain. I usually play a bit more conservatively with a new pick up group to test the waters before I open myself up for the rollercoaster ride to Debt City :p

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That reminds me of when I used to play FFXI. Someone got a group together in a level 20 area (myself included), but instead of actually preparing for mobs and giving healers time to heal and the like, he just kept running over to monsters and attacking. He wouldn't listen to anyone trying to tell him to chill out until the healers recovered, he just kept at it. Naturally, we all said "screw this" and left the party. I still remember his cries for help as we all left him to fight a monster.

Kayzee

11-13-2006, 08:59 AM

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was just in the sewers... told a /elec blaster to pull... so he fires off electirc cages.

[/ QUOTE ]

Heh, I am a newb, and some of these "mistakes" I could have or may have made.

However, I had to laugh at this one though. Cages...

Barata

11-13-2006, 09:29 AM

When I made my first toon, I was there in AP with a mission to defeat X number of Hellions in Atlas Park.

So I spent about a half an hour running around looking for Atlas Park. I checked out the little park with the lake near the town center, and all of the other little grassy areas, and then finally the office parks with statues. Surely one of them had to be Atlas Park!

I can't remember exactly when it dawned on me that the whole zone was Atlas Park.

TivoManiac

11-13-2006, 10:15 AM

Yesterday I was playing a new controller on Triumph. I was lvl 12 at the time and heading to a mission in KR. I got a blind tell "Can I join you?". I turn around and a lvl 7 defender is following me. Okay, I invite him and SK him and we get through the mission okay and I ding 13. Then we are headed to Perez and he asks for the star. I've zoned so I can't see who he's inviting. He invites 3 people to the team. Two are level 7 and one is 9. I explained we needed other to sk them. The lvl 9 says I'm almost 10. When I hit 10 I'll sk one of them. We do okay until we get to one room with a pair of bosses that were lvl 14. I keep hitting one of them with confuse in the hopes he will take the other out. But one of the 7's just has to get in the action and argos the other boss. I then need to try to confuse him. The problem was that I didn't have confuse slotted up enough to keep casting it on two red bosses fast enough to keep them both confused. I should have just said no to begin with and not let us start the mission. I knew better. Sometimes we vets do noobish things too! lol

SerialBeggar

11-13-2006, 11:13 AM

It was a mid-40s team going after an AV. The Tank goes in to get the AV's attention. I dash off to the side as that's what I usually do so I have an unobstructed view. The rest of the team follows the Tank and attacks from behind him. The team immediately receives constant heavy damage and the heal capable players switch to auto-heal to keep up. No one seemed to realize that the AV is using a series of cone attacks on the Tank so being behind him was bad. After I tell them to move to the side, the fight goes a lot smoother as the healing players could participate instead of healing.

VilleCorp

11-13-2006, 02:34 PM

This isn't really a noob story, just something funny that happened in my early days.

My two friends and I were running a mission at lvl 11-ish. I was playing my claws/regen, the two others were an Ar/Fire and a Inv/SS tank. I tell my blaster friend "You draw em, I'll intercept em." So, he launches an M30 at em. At that moment...I d/c just long enough for them to destroy us. He says to me "All I can say...nice intercepting!"

One mistake I'll not make again :p

joshdex

11-13-2006, 02:34 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Noob stories?

When I first started CoH, it was my second mmog. My first was FFXI and I didn't understand that much at first. The first day I played City of Heroes, I started out as a gravity controller in Galaxy City and I heard someone cry out for help.

I freaked out and thought,"NO [censored]! Here is my chance to be a HERO! I've never been a hero before!"

I ran as fast as I could to the Hellion and wailed on him! Bam!!
Pow!
Kerplunk!!!
These sounds were running through my mind as I beat the living day lights out of the men trying to steal the woman's purse. Afterwords the NPC said ask me how she could repay me...

I stood there for a second wondering what to say, and instantly came up with the best reply ever.

"How about a date?"

Sadly, she ran away. I tried to catch her.... but I lost her down an alleyway. After a few more of these situations I realized they won't talk back. I honestly thought I was saving real players.

/e sigh on my level two controller. My first character ever in City of Heroes stories. I eventually learned the lingo such as herding, pulling, and "AMbusH!". I remember when playing FFXI, I tried talking to an NPC for 5 minutes before someone pointed out that they don't reply. I thought computer games were so much more advanced at that time. :)

<3,
Completely Oblivious.

[/ QUOTE ]

ROFL!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Kind of reminds me of when I used to attack the Outcast when I was new- and kept stopping to try to apologize to the Bosses. .

Because I kept thinking they were attacking the Outcast minions, and I was kill stealing from them or something.

*doh* - Fortunately, it only took me about five or six time to outgrow that mistake. ;)

I think.

- J

vidicate

11-13-2006, 09:15 PM

<qr>
You guys want to see some of the bestest stories ev-ar? This is the (un)official thread for stories of playing with newbs, n00bs, spazzes, crack-smokers, goofballs, and jerks, and even the occasional good PuGs too.
How to know you're in a pick-up group (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=games&Number=1637861&fpar t=&PHPSESSID=)
Currently over 1,600 posts and growing.
Enjoy! :)

Edit: Just a couple of my favorites are from EvilRat on page 100, and JackONight on page 153. (at 10 posts per page)

LordSparky

11-13-2006, 10:55 PM

I love n00b stories so long as they are done in the right spirit - maybe constructive jest? Anyway.....real n00b from the other night:

Lvl 41 tank in our team was being a bit .....odd.
Me: Wait here til the grp is ready
Tank: OK (then runs to stand in range of the mobs & draw fire)

Me: OK tank go herd some out please
Tank: OK (then runs into Room Of Death, aggro's 3 grps & stands toe to toe until we run in to save his rear end with 3 deaths in the process)

Me: Hey tank please be so kind as to pull that grp so we dont all go in that room.
Tank: OK (then stands in the hallway in LoS & uses Taunt and get shot at...a lot).

It was not all bad but kinda hard work when the guy was lvl 41 & struggling to read his chat window as well.

Couple more stories:

I brought my older brother into the CoH to which he is now addicted. One of the funniest moments was when I asked him about his slotting on his first toon:

Me: so what is your most slotted power?
bro: Oh I have Brawl 6 slotted!
Me: Huh?? Why????
bro: because it recharges the fastest!!!!!!

I also got my best friend into CoH. His highest toon is now lvl 33 blaster. Lots of funny stories about his learning curve but our favorite was this one...

He was about lvl 22, always ignored tells & never followed instructions from the chat window. So one night while we were playing & talking on Skype (he FINALLY downloaded it...)

Me: How come you dont respond to tells?
Him: Err...what are they?
Me: The yellow text in your chat window.
Him: Chat window? I dont have yellow text in it.
Me: You do have a window right?
Him: Oh yes but I dont see any chat in it.
Me: So you dont see this message??(i send a message)
Him: Oh yes I see it - above your head in the game
Me: not in the window?
Him: Only above your head which is how its always been.
Me: You said you had a chat window??
Him: Thats where I type so the message appears above my head in the game.
Me: Do you have a little blue arrow/triangle on the right end of where you type & if so, click on it....
Him: Oh yes i do (clicks it to expand chat window)....AHHHHH!!!!!!

He had somehow managed to minimise the chat window & never knew it. I had seen him annoy many team leaders by ignoring instructions

We did laugh a lot & my brother & I spend the next 3 months calling him Chat Boy. He has many stories like this but this was his 1st and best.

Nightphall

11-14-2006, 01:45 AM

Everytime I see something like this...it bring back memories on an old post in which I was called the noob. I keep this chat log because it makes me laugh. It is all true, though heavily edited for content. Read this and try to find out what I did to deserve to be called a noob.

(I found myself in a mood to beat up on some villains, so I head to Siren's Call. Within a few seconds, I'm invited to a team. PvP zones are the only places that I don't mind blind invites. So, our team of 5 scrappers, a tank, an empathy defender, and a Warshade, along with other heroes, get into an all out street-war with the villains only slightly outnumbering us. One villain, who thinks his Assassin Strike makes him invincible, decided to unleash it on me. It hits, but I survive and am healed by our defender. Most of you know how much I dislike that attack, so I let loose on the stalker, beating him in 3 hits. Guess what happens a few seconds later?)

Stalker: noob
Me: Eh?
Stalker: did i stutter
Me: No....I read what you typed just fine. I fail to understand what I did to deserve to get called a noob.
Stalker: i saw your defender buddy there without her i would kill you
Me: And how does that make me a noob? Because my teammate healed me? Who doesn't need healing after an Assassin Strike?
Stalker: your just a noob u cant beat me without her im gonna AS the defender so she cant heal you
Me: Telling me your gameplan now? Now I have a reason to look out for you. The stalker will now become the stalked.
Stalker: o plese you cant see me
Me: *Please
Stalker: i cant wait to kill you
Me: I'm waiting.

(So the stalker appears again....but changes his plan a little. He executes AS on me again, but once again, I survive. Three of my teammates quickly deal with him, which gets me more tells.)

Stalker: see your such a noob you cant beat me alone
Me: And you know this how?
Stlaker: all i have to do is as you and then attack and then your dead
Me: Really? Care to place a wager on that bet?
Stalker: no just let me show you how fast i can kill you
Me: LOL....okay. Try again.

(Moments later, he again returns. The AS hits, so I pop a few greens before unleashing on him. He falls.....and the rage begins.)

Stalker: such a noob using insp
Me: Inspirations aren't illegal.
Stalker: Only people that suck use them in pvp
Me: No. Why would I not heal after AS? I'm sure you know how much damage it does. If I were a regen, then MAYBE I would have not used my greens.
Stalker: thats a lame excuse you should just quit pvp
Stalker: u need teammates
Stalker: u use insp
Me: None of these actions are illegal.
Stalker: noob actions
Me: No. It's playing it smart. Do you want me to not heal after your next AS?
Stalker: im gonna get my SG members so we can all as u
Me: Wow....a whole SG of stalkers against me? Am I that powerful? Am I that big of a threat to you?
Stalker: no u r lame i just want to do it so i can laugh at you
Stalker: so enjoy your wins while you can cause when we see you we will as you all the time
Me: Looking forward to it really.
Stalker: noobs like you ruin this game
Me: Again, you fail to explain what I've done to get myself classified as a "noob".
Stalker: i did already noob
Stalker: without teammates or insp u cant beat me so that makes you a noob
Me: I give up.
Stalker: thats right run punk
Me: I'm not running. I'm just tired of trying to reason with you. Don't talk trash.
Stalker i can say what i want and i can back it up punk
Me: And with you on ignore, I could care less.
Stalker: then ignore me
Stalker: please

(I update my ignore list with this stalker's name.)

Me: Problem solved.

(The stalker does return, with a corruptor and a mastermind, as opposed to the SG of stalkers he promised. Darn. I was looking foward to being hit with AS everytime I made a move.....LOL.)

Seryphim

11-14-2006, 05:36 PM

Many of the stories presented demonstrate Newbs, not Noobs. :(

If those people learned from thier mistakes and they got better; they were Newbs. :eek:

If they did not learn from thier mistake and rebuffed all constructive comments believing they know how to play thier AT; then they are a NOOB. :confused:

Please remember the difference. :D

A Newb can learn and become a good player. :)

A Noob will never learn and will always be a bad player. ;)

I met a Newb (not Noob) who did not understand about Enhancement Management.

We were in a group, she was a Stalker that could not hit anything.

Everyone was saying she was worthless since she was not really contributing to the battles. But I was the leader so I refused to remove her. I mean she seemed like she was trying.

I got a couple of good Damage and Accuracy Enhancments and I offered them to her. She said she was full and could not accept anymore until she visited the Quartermaster. I asked her what Enhancements she had in her skills.

She stated "Enhancements in my skills?" (I think I found the problem) :eek:

I found out she thought enhancements were Loot. To be sold to Vendors for Influence.

Once I helped her get some appropriate level enhancements into her skills, she proved to be quite competent and learned her place well.

The crowing acheivement was recruiting a vetern Stalker (low level Alt) who helped her refine her assasin skills. Now she is quite adept at being a Stalker.

But because she came from a MMORPG that relied upon Loot rather than skills; she did not immediately realize what the Enhancements were for.

And honestly.... How many people actually read the instructions or read the tutorial? ;)

Zyn

11-16-2006, 09:41 AM

I come across many more newbies than noobs.

I will start with something I did during the first week of getting COH. :eek: I had never teamed before and found myself in PP. I was exploring the area when I got invited to a team. It was a multi level cave mission and we finished the mission pretty fast. After completition, I was trying like crazy to find a way to climb up the levels to exit the mission. A kind member finally decided I had suffered enough and informed me of the click mission complete to exit. :eek: I wondered how they got out so fast! :o

My latest encounter with a newbie was in my 20s with my new Corr. He was a MM and I noticed his bots were not doing the damage I had seen other bots do. I have only tried a MM once so I am by no means an expert on slotting. His problem became clear when he mentioned that 6 slotted flight didn't seem much faster. The team was breaking up but no one said anything to him. I sent him a few privates asking him his slotting. He was not aware of ED and was confused on what some of his enhancements did. After a 15 minutes conversation and him reslotting his powers, we tried a mission together. There was a huge difference. :) That 15 minute conversation resulted in a global friend and many missions together. :)

So I say, before anyone writes someone off as a noob, try talking with them. Sometimes they just don't know any better. ;) Besides, I am pretty sure most of us have done something in the game (when we first started playing) that we would consider newbish now. :D I know there are childish or annoying players out there that refuse to learn. I am glad I haven't crossed many of their paths. ;)

Flaming1

11-16-2006, 09:58 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I join a villain PUG. This was a low level team around level 10. The mission owner had their rep jacked to the max so everything was red or purple to most of us. So I made the suggestion that one of the corrupter should pull. So the fire/rad guy says ok he will pull. Guess what this guy uses to pull with? FIREBALL!!! :mad: I am like omg why would you pull with an aoe? The team ended up wiping. When we all got back from the hospital I pulled this time. Everything went well after that. I soon left after this mission was over. Anyone else care to share some crazy noob stories?

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Actually, in some circumstances, Fire Ball is excellent for pulling.

It's a very fast animation, not very high damage (it has a lower BI than Flares), and repops quite quickly.

Why pull with an AoE? Pulling a single target often leads to a trickle of aggro. Mobs come at you one at a time. Sometimes that's preferable. But to take maximal advantage of AoEs, you want a group that's relatively tightly grouped. Using a fast AoE like Fire Ball allows you to pull an entire group together, tightly.

If the point of pulling isn't to reduce the number of enemies in a group -- but instead, to pull one group away from potential chain aggro, and you can survive a full spawn, AoE pulling can often be preferable.

I'll grant that in the OP's example -- L10 probably precludes the survivability criterion. But AoE pulling is perfectly survivable, given good teamwork, and skillful use of LoS.

Quilcene

11-16-2006, 02:25 PM

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My favorite was a long time ago, in I3 I think. Was on a pug, ~level 15-18 in the hollows, on one of the missions of kill all critters in the cave (igneous, I think). Well, this one blaster has over agro'd stuff and died inspite of my tank taunting and attempting to agro control throughout the mission. Celarly, he lacked any idea of tactics or pulling for limited agro.

Anyway, this blaster almost caused a team wipe, and tempers were climbing. We got to a large round room with tons of critters. This blaster said "watch this" and went flying into the area, triggered the alpha, and ate an obscene amount of boulders and ranged damage. It was enough damage to likely wipe the whole team 3 or 4 times over, as he agro'd like 4 separate spawns.

Over team channel I asked "wow, was that on purpose?". The reply was "no."

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OMG, I think I was on that team too! Actually, I've been on that team a couple times. For some reason, people with fly like to go into those huge cave rooms, fly to the top, and then drop right in the center of the four groups of mobs. Guess they wanted off the team, cause they all never come back from the hospital and eventually get kicked from the team.

Barata

11-16-2006, 02:46 PM

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So I say, before anyone writes someone off as a noob, try talking with them. Sometimes they just don't know any better. ;) Besides, I am pretty sure most of us have done something in the game (when we first started playing) that we would consider newbish now. :D I know there are childish or annoying players out there that refuse to learn. I am glad I haven't crossed many of their paths. ;)

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I had my 45 blaster in Steel Canyon on my way to a mish. I see a broadswoard/DA scrapper faceplanted with a bunch of council standing around him. So I give him an awaken and take out the enemies so he can rez. He was level 14, so I followed him a bit and would toss him a heal while he was fighting. Also, I'd use Chilling Embrace and stand next to him so that the bad guys would be debuffed, but he'd still get all the exp. I noticed he kept missing a lot. So I took the time out to explain some proper slotting techniques.

I told him that if he's still using TOs, he should have two or three accuracies in his attacks. He didn't know what a TO was. No problem, he'd only been playing for two days. So I told him the TOs were the training enhancements he was using. I then had him follow me to the store and read off how all of his powers were slotted. I totally outfitted him with all green DOs and told him he'd hit more often, harder, and with less endurance usage (some of his armors). I told him to make sure he doesn't neglect his armors anymore (he only had one resistance power and the damage aura).

He was VERY happy with all of the advice and gifts and was just so incredibly pleased with DOs since they're twice as good as TOs. He almost peed his armor when I told him about SOs. :) But yeah, sometimes just talking to people is the best thing. The allure of the game can be so great at times, a new player will just want to jump in and play and forget to read the manual.

Blue_Paradox

11-16-2006, 03:29 PM

Without newbs, there would be no veterans :) And without veterans, I'd still be clueless and have jumpkick :p

_Shatter_

11-19-2006, 08:37 AM

I spent levels 1-20 Tanking....With a blaster. :o

Slaughter

11-19-2006, 10:42 PM

i spent 39 lvls hunting boars. and they arent in the game! thats how much of a noob i was!

Tempstra

11-19-2006, 10:50 PM

I have to admit this one is my noob story.

I hit level 32ish and was sk'd to a SG mate I think level 45ish or so. Anyways, I needed to shop and was trying to find the Science guy in Brickstown. (this was before Vidiot Maps was known about).

So, she & I are flying around and I saw some players grouped below us, I flew down and asked them twice where the science store was before I noticed they were level 36 Council.

Luckily, Mentor was in range or else I'd have eaten it.

Tempstra.

fembot

11-20-2006, 01:19 AM

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I just spit soda on my keyboard. :D

CoH is the only MMO I've ever played and I spent the first 18 levels solo (FPS habits die hard). When I finally got on a team for the first time, everyone was at the mish and I'm all "Hey, where are you guys?" Had not a clue how to find them.

Luckily, the leader was very patient and pointed me in the right direction. Once there, I asked for constructive criticism about teaming and everyone was very helpful. The way newbies are treated really can make or break the game for them.

Satanicus

11-20-2006, 05:56 AM

I'm a newb :(

I got kicked off a team for jumping into spawns on too many times with my Ice Troller, hey I survived a good portion of the time, but a couple times in a row, I didn't.

OOooooops :(

JustAnotherGuy

11-22-2006, 08:00 AM

I was on a PUG of level 14, I was the tank. We were in boomtown, and the leader decided attacking level 19's at the far northwall would be great xp. I tried to explain we are gonna be wiped. The team leader decided to go ahead with his plan as normal. I let him know.. Goodluck, I'm not risking that.

He kicks me from the team, but I decide to watch, whamo.. 6 orange names appear about 15 seconds after they enter the mob. He reinvites me, I decline, he proceeds to reinvite me 4 times until I have to turn off team invites, and I get tells to join them, so I do just to see what they have to say.. I joined, and they all scream in caps... Got awaken?! LOL I have 3 in my tray so I say sure.. I hit DP run in, and give the 3 awakens, barely escaping the onslaught of +5 Lost, and watch the three of them actually rez in the middle of the group of Lost..

LOL cya guys later
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