Naruto, again! [Archive] - City of Heroes Forums

Adam7

09-26-2005, 11:06 AM

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And where is Jiraiya?!

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My guess is we're getting "filler" right now as the Manga tries to pull ahead with the "real" storylines again. That's why Jiraiya has been away on his "secret mission" for a while now. Someone who's acctually read the manga could probably give you a better confirmation of this, but that's what I think's happenning.

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yep, thats whats happening.
The manga ended naruto "part 1" after the big shakedown fight between cursed seal 2 & kyubi-fied. (trying to stay somewhat ambiguous to avoid spoilers)
The last scene in naruto part 1 (as kishimoto calls it) is the scene in the cave with all the shadowed forms of the akatsuki members.
Then the manga goes into a kakashi side story for like 6 chapters. Then they took a month off. And then it picks up again with "part 2".
Part 2 has thusfar been fairly awesome.
any and all downloads of the naruto series you want (manga & bittorrent episodes for free & direct download episodes for a membership fee) can be found at narutofan.com

oh, and happy burfday RS.

DarZindel

09-26-2005, 11:31 AM

Just poped by to say happy b-day raven

The_Foo

09-26-2005, 11:36 AM

Birthdays for everyone!!! Huzzah!

Kong_Fuu

09-26-2005, 11:38 AM

Tsunade seems to have had just about enough of everyone's attitude. I can see why she didn't want to take the job now.

She does seem to be going out of her way to keep Naruto out of her hair. To be fair to Tsunade though, he is pretty annoying when nothing is going on.

At least we don't have the kindergardners doing the filler episodes anymore. Those got old in a hurry.

LunaShadow

09-26-2005, 11:44 AM

I'm half expecting Tsunade to go a bender of epic proportions and totally destroy her office and building. And she's starting to run out of people to send Naruto with to keep him out of her hair.

As for the conversation between Naruto and Fuzzy Eyebrows... let's just say I almost accidently snorted the root beer I was drinking at the time.

Poison

09-26-2005, 11:51 AM

Happy bday, Ravenstorm. Take a day off from Striga.

Prince_Tycho

09-26-2005, 11:53 AM

I'm completely lost here.... The only episodes that I've seen are the ones on Cartoon Network..... Guess I'm a little bit behind, hmm?

LunaShadow

09-26-2005, 11:57 AM

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I'm completely lost here.... The only episodes that I've seen are the ones on Cartoon Network..... Guess I'm a little bit behind, hmm?

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If you've only seen the stuff on Cartoon Network, you'll probably want to avoid these threads as we're talking about episode 152 which just aired in Tokyo last week which is far, far past what Cartoon Network has right now. Nothing worse than being spoiled if you like a series.

Pep_Cat

09-26-2005, 12:12 PM

Yay, it's Ravenstorm's birthday!

*sends a minty birthday cake out to Striga Island*

Gotta be lonely out there, just waiting for heroes to level up. =^_^=

P_Dude

09-26-2005, 12:36 PM

Let's all level up and go to Ravenstorm's for his birthday! huzzah!

*cracks knuckles for birthday punches*

hehehehe :)

Sirromnad

09-26-2005, 12:46 PM

B-days for all but everyone. Cept raven. (You guys get that?!)
Anyway, fillers should be done really soon, than we get to see what i like to call Naruto: All Grow'd up.

Narcissus

09-26-2005, 01:00 PM

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Excellent series so far, only up to 143 waiting on a dump of the latest episodes from friends....

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Or you can download the episodes you are missing for free from here (http://www.naruto-kun.com/full+episodes.html)

EvilRyu

09-26-2005, 01:15 PM

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I'm completely lost here.... The only episodes that I've seen are the ones on Cartoon Network..... Guess I'm a little bit behind, hmm?

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I feel sorry for anyone who never got to see the uncut version of anime. You really should just dowload and watch the episodes in japanese because I hear the english dubbing is horrible. I bet they will butcher it like they did dragonball, z, gt, full metal alchemist and yu-gi-oh. I never watch americanized anime past the first season if at all possible, they leave too much out, and they do not keep the jokes in the same context they were originally in.

Ravenstorm_NA

09-26-2005, 01:16 PM

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Yay, it's Ravenstorm's birthday!

*sends a minty birthday cake out to Striga Island*

Gotta be lonely out there, just waiting for heroes to level up. =^_^=

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Yeah, if it weren't for all those turrets that are just a stone's throw away, I'd have more company. Blasted Council. :)

Belabras

09-26-2005, 01:18 PM

Happy B-day Raven!

Sirromnad

09-26-2005, 01:24 PM

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I feel sorry for anyone who never got to see the uncut version of anime. You really should just dowload and watch the episodes in japanese because I hear the english dubbing is horrible. I bet they will butcher it like they did dragonball, z, gt, full metal alchemist and yu-gi-oh. I never watch americanized anime past the first season if at all possible, they leave too much out, and they do not keep the jokes in the same context they were originally in.

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It isn't that bad. I agree with you for most, except FMA. FMA was done well. Many people including me actually like the dubbed naruto.

Orochi

09-26-2005, 01:30 PM

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I feel sorry for anyone who never got to see the uncut version of anime. You really should just dowload and watch the episodes in japanese because I hear the english dubbing is horrible. I bet they will butcher it like they did dragonball, z, gt, full metal alchemist and yu-gi-oh. I never watch americanized anime past the first season if at all possible, they leave too much out, and they do not keep the jokes in the same context they were originally in.

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I've seen fansubbed FMA up to 33, how was it butchered? And don't say Al's voice, as he's a 10 year old, he sounds fine.

Narcissus

09-26-2005, 01:31 PM

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You really should just dowload and watch the episodes in japanese because I hear the english dubbing is horrible. I bet they will butcher it like they did dragonball, z, gt, [snip] and yu-gi-oh. I never watch americanized anime past the first season if at all possible, they leave too much out, and they do not keep the jokes in the same context they were originally in.

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Understatement of the century. The voice acting in the CN version of Naruto is like nails on a chalkboard. It LITERALLY hurts my ears.

EvilRyu

09-26-2005, 01:39 PM

Any chance the heroes will get a version of ninjutsu that is more like the naruto version? You know hands seals, henge no jutsu and that replacement technique(kwairamai no jutsu)(sp?)? I hear the CoV version kind of lacking alot of that(NDA). We need something that is a little more like that.

Sirromnad

09-26-2005, 02:17 PM

Most of the voices in naruto are done well, and fit the characters, mind you this isn't for all of them. The only anime i despise in america is one piece. Its amazing in japan but horrible in one piece.

The heroes getting a version of ninjitsu like naruto? Thats silly, why not just play a naruto mmo rpg. I think that would be silly, because it is NOT naruto and don't NEED it.

Streamlined

09-26-2005, 02:28 PM

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And where is Jiraiya?!

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My guess is we're getting "filler" right now as the Manga tries to pull ahead with the "real" storylines again. That's why Jiraiya has been away on his "secret mission" for a while now. Someone who's acctually read the manga could probably give you a better confirmation of this, but that's what I think's happenning.

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yep, thats whats happening.
The manga ended naruto "part 1" after the big shakedown fight between cursed seal 2 & kyubi-fied. (trying to stay somewhat ambiguous to avoid spoilers)
The last scene in naruto part 1 (as kishimoto calls it) is the scene in the cave with all the shadowed forms of the akatsuki members.
Then the manga goes into a kakashi side story for like 6 chapters. Then they took a month off. And then it picks up again with "part 2".
Part 2 has thusfar been fairly awesome.
any and all downloads of the naruto series you want (manga & bittorrent episodes for free & direct download episodes for a membership fee) can be found at narutofan.com

oh, and happy burfday RS.

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narutochaos.com is the better site.

Lobster

09-26-2005, 02:57 PM

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Lee should get Sakura and Naruto should get Hinata, and then they should kil off Sasuke.

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Well we know nothing interesting like that is happening for a loooong time, unless the animated totally diverges from the manga. Speaking of, I wish it would freaking get back on track!!

Sirromnad

09-26-2005, 03:12 PM

They have to because the next "Season" Is such a drastic change, they need some filler.

Voidchild_NA

09-26-2005, 03:51 PM

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Any chance the heroes will get a version of ninjutsu that is more like the naruto version? You know hands seals, henge no jutsu and that replacement technique(kwairamai no jutsu)(sp?)?

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Lord I hope not, I've already seen two Rock Lee copies, one Naruto copy and another Sasuke copy. =P And this without even having ninjitsu powersets. =D

da5id

09-26-2005, 03:56 PM

I've been dying for the anime to get back to the main storyline. I wanna see the new and improved Sakura damnit!

Tygyr

09-26-2005, 04:02 PM

Have a Blessed Birthday

Starfire_One

09-26-2005, 04:19 PM

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Yay, it's Ravenstorm's birthday!

*sends a minty birthday cake out to Striga Island*

Gotta be lonely out there, just waiting for heroes to level up. =^_^=

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Yeah, if it weren't for all those turrets that are just a stone's throw away, I'd have more company. Blasted Council. :)

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No, the blasted Council soon disappear... It's the un-blasted Council you have to worry about!

War Witch

09-26-2005, 04:27 PM

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Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear Ravenstorm,
Happy Birthday to you!

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Happy Birthday, Ravenstorm!!!!!!!! You rock, pal :)

OtterWally

09-26-2005, 04:29 PM

That's the first time a red name ever posted in one of my posts and it wasn't even on topic. Le sigh...

Anyway these fillers seem much better than the others that is for dang sure.

Pep_Cat

09-26-2005, 04:47 PM

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Yeah, if it weren't for all those turrets that are just a stone's throw away, I'd have more company. Blasted Council. :)

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OMG, Ravenstorm quoted me! =O_O=

*swoons*

:p

The_Chad

09-26-2005, 04:57 PM

Anything with Lee in it is gonna be good. I'm really likeing this filler, so far.

Mr_Hellcat

09-26-2005, 06:26 PM

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I've been dying for the anime to get back to the main storyline. I wanna see the new and improved Sakura damnit!

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The heck with that! I want to see Yondaime in action and actually hear his voice actor. Oh, and for those of you reading the manga.. doesn't it seem like the "All Grow'd Up" part's going to drag worse than the bridge scene?

I'm guessing.. 3-4 episodes until the fillers stop, based on the other filler episodes with the other team. 1-2 more with Lee's team, then probably a silly episode where Naruto says goodbye and such.

Oh, and is it me or do you guys think it'd be a good idea to let Lee carry some of his "medicine" around as just in case sort of edge against enemies?

Narcissus

09-26-2005, 06:34 PM

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Oh, and is it me or do you guys think it'd be a good idea to let Lee carry some of his "medicine" around as just in case sort of edge against enemies?

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Yes he should!

OtterWally

09-26-2005, 06:47 PM

That kid holds his liquor worse than Doc Brown but he sure uses that to great effect!

Orochi

09-26-2005, 09:17 PM

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The heck with that! I want to see Yondaime in action and actually hear his voice actor. Oh, and for those of you reading the manga.. doesn't it seem like the "All Grow'd Up" part's going to drag worse than the bridge scene?

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Sakura's fight lasted far too long, hopefully when they animate it they speed it up a bit, the rest of the saga has had a decent pacing.

Mr_Hellcat

09-26-2005, 10:47 PM

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The heck with that! I want to see Yondaime in action and actually hear his voice actor. Oh, and for those of you reading the manga.. doesn't it seem like the "All Grow'd Up" part's going to drag worse than the bridge scene?

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Sakura's fight lasted far too long, hopefully when they animate it they speed it up a bit, the rest of the saga has had a decent pacing.

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I'm sure they'll speed it up. A lot of the manga was dramatic pauses and deep stares as the "Will Sakura be able to...!?!?!?!?!?!" and "What will they do now!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!" showed up in the end of the issues. I hope they expand the Rock Country fight in the flashback, myself. And you know they're going to expand the Team Gai fights. Well heck, they'll probably show the Team Gai fights, since they didn't in the manga.

_Ilr_

09-26-2005, 11:22 PM

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Yeah, if it weren't for all those turrets that are just a stone's throw away, I'd have more company. Blasted Council. :)

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...Yes....It was... the Council's idea all along.
And...wait.. NO!, YOU DON'T SCARE ME!
ACK! I mean... just don't tell them where I live, plz?

Oh wait Naruto... I always heard of this Show on the internet and now I see why it was so popular. I DEMMAND my controller be able to do Sexy Jutsu!

Rajani Isa

09-27-2005, 02:45 AM

Sexy no Jutsu has nothing on Harem no Jutsu!

Arilou

09-27-2005, 04:44 AM

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Yeah, if it weren't for all those turrets that are just a stone's throw away, I'd have more company. Blasted Council. :)

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...Yes....It was... the Council's idea all along.
And...wait.. NO!, YOU DON'T SCARE ME!
ACK! I mean... just don't tell them where I live, plz?

Oh wait Naruto... I always heard of this Show on the internet and now I see why it was so popular. I DEMMAND my controller be able to do Sexy Jutsu!

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Geth Gekitou Ninja Taisen (#4 is in the works, I believe, hope it gets to the US) games for the GC: Naruto's "Back-A" defence is the Sexy No Jutsu .p

Arilou

09-27-2005, 04:47 AM

Fights always drag in comics and conversations in movies. A fight in a comic takes several panels (often) just for one move that would take a second or two in a movie, meanwhile a panel can hold enough text for a quite long conversation.

Kong_Fuu

09-27-2005, 08:47 AM

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I've been dying for the anime to get back to the main storyline. I wanna see the new and improved Sakura damnit!

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Me too. I was getting really cheezed off that the "smart kid" was always the last one to figure stuff out in battle, and worse, she was completely useless except as a hostage. I'm so glad she's finally getting over the "I'm a ninja to meet boys" phase.

I mean she teased us in the tournament qualifying round when she cut her hair, but it didn't take long for her to revert to her old ways afterward. Finally, over 130 episodes into the series, she decides to stop being so damn useless all the time.

Mr_Hellcat

09-27-2005, 11:15 AM

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I've been dying for the anime to get back to the main storyline. I wanna see the new and improved Sakura damnit!

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Me too. I was getting really cheezed off that the "smart kid" was always the last one to figure stuff out in battle, and worse, she was completely useless except as a hostage. I'm so glad she's finally getting over the "I'm a ninja to meet boys" phase.

I mean she teased us in the tournament qualifying round when she cut her hair, but it didn't take long for her to revert to her old ways afterward. Finally, over 130 episodes into the series, she decides to stop being so damn useless all the time.

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Oh oh! Speaking of smart kids not figuring it out. How about Sasuke seeing Naruto being all badass and STILL just being like "ah. So you are special and that's why the man I'm so obsessed with it's almost like I lust after him, was after you!" What a [censored]. :D $10 says he [censored] himself when Orochi told him just how special Naruto was. $20 (easier bet for me to win) says he still doesn't know just what makes Naruto "special".

SteelPoet

09-27-2005, 11:33 AM

I gotta say..I was actually dissapointed with the show...I found it to be too kiddy...not really up to par with most good anime.

Arilou

09-27-2005, 03:15 PM

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I've been dying for the anime to get back to the main storyline. I wanna see the new and improved Sakura damnit!

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Me too. I was getting really cheezed off that the "smart kid" was always the last one to figure stuff out in battle, and worse, she was completely useless except as a hostage. I'm so glad she's finally getting over the "I'm a ninja to meet boys" phase.

I mean she teased us in the tournament qualifying round when she cut her hair, but it didn't take long for her to revert to her old ways afterward. Finally, over 130 episodes into the series, she decides to stop being so damn useless all the time.

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Oh oh! Speaking of smart kids not figuring it out. How about Sasuke seeing Naruto being all badass and STILL just being like "ah. So you are special and that's why the man I'm so obsessed with it's almost like I lust after him, was after you!" What a [censored]. :D $10 says he [censored] himself when Orochi told him just how special Naruto was. $20 (easier bet for me to win) says he still doesn't know just what makes Naruto "special".

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They do that a lot better in the manga, it's amazing how they can contrive so that Sasuke does *not* see Naruto use his li'l friend....

He was already in a near-death State when Naruto pwned Haku, he was out of the game for the Neji fight... The first time he actually sees Naruto kicking [censored] personally is against Gaara...

Ravenstorm_NA

09-27-2005, 04:57 PM

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I gotta say..I was actually dissapointed with the show...I found it to be too kiddy...not really up to par with most good anime.

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Did you watch the Cartoon Network episodes, or the original Japanese episodes? If you only have seen the CN episodes, you are in for one heck of a ride. It gets much better, trust me. :)

Rkik_Dnec

09-27-2005, 05:42 PM

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I gotta say..I was actually dissapointed with the show...I found it to be too kiddy...not really up to par with most good anime.

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Did you watch the Cartoon Network episodes, or the original Japanese episodes? If you only have seen the CN episodes, you are in for one heck of a ride. It gets much better, trust me. :)

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I'm a big fan of the manga. I didn't think I'd like it originally, but it was pretty fun. Not exactly the most thought proking at times, but definately fun.

I've been shying away from the CN version, because I'm not a huge dub fan. And from what I heard it's pretty bad. I'll have to get my hands on an unedited and subbed version to try it out.

Right now, though, I'm in the middle of watching Full Metal Alchemist and Read Or Die. I have to thank everyone on these boards that was mentioning RoD, because the show kicks butt and is quite original.

Aaron123

09-27-2005, 06:32 PM

It's dubbed better than One Piece from what I've heard...I read the manga too and it could've been a lot worse.

_Ilr_

09-27-2005, 06:33 PM

I dunno why everyone's gotta dog the Anime on Toonami. I'm enjoying it. Yeah they're childish and might cut out some cool parts, but atleast eveyone can understand it....and it's Free. We don't have an Otaku-Network yet so I say we just be glad this stuff is getting some major exposure in the US. Personally I hate reading subtitles so I'll gladly settle for a dub.

StormWindZero

09-27-2005, 06:46 PM

Well for all the people out there want to see the real world of anime. Check out this. (http://www.animesuki.com)

And for the most up to the min Naruto Subs you can check out this also. (http://yhbt.mine.nu/)

Just you wait and see what Fan Subbed anime is like to the.... how do i put it. crap we see Dubbed. Well not all dubbed is bad but lets face it. Anime is not anime when dubbed. :D

gSOLO

09-27-2005, 08:34 PM

Just made it up to episode 19 on some fansubs and I am addicted. Still a ways to go, but I know I'm going to enjoy the ride.

dispatch_NA

09-27-2005, 08:34 PM

I haven't watched the dubs on CN, but I've heard the main character's voice compared to Ash Ketchum, so...

Adam7

09-27-2005, 09:06 PM

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Just made it up to episode 19 on some fansubs and I am addicted. Still a ways to go, but I know I'm going to enjoy the ride.

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man once the exams start things really get interesting.
naru-fart 4tw!

Pseudotron

09-27-2005, 09:08 PM

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I gotta say..I was actually dissapointed with the show...I found it to be too kiddy...not really up to par with most good anime.

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Did you watch the Cartoon Network episodes, or the original Japanese episodes? If you only have seen the CN episodes, you are in for one heck of a ride. It gets much better, trust me. :)

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I'm a big fan of the manga. I didn't think I'd like it originally, but it was pretty fun. Not exactly the most thought proking at times, but definately fun.

I've been shying away from the CN version, because I'm not a huge dub fan. And from what I heard it's pretty bad. I'll have to get my hands on an unedited and subbed version to try it out.

Right now, though, I'm in the middle of watching Full Metal Alchemist and Read Or Die. I have to thank everyone on these boards that was mentioning RoD, because the show kicks butt and is quite original.

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Bah, anyone who says the Dubbing on Naruto is bad are those stupid Narutard Zealots. ONOES HE R PRONUNCE IT WRUNG I R POST ON BLOG ABOUT ANGER GRRR!!11!!!!

The dubs fine.

da5id

09-27-2005, 10:00 PM

The dub is ok. I vastly prefer the fansubs though.

Love the avator Psuedotron, I'm a big Yakitake Japan Fan. (Ahh it combines two of my loves, bread baking and anime... together at last)

Arilou

09-27-2005, 11:25 PM

DeathStarr

09-28-2005, 03:57 AM

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I gotta say..I was actually dissapointed with the show...I found it to be too kiddy...not really up to par with most good anime.

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Did you watch the Cartoon Network episodes, or the original Japanese episodes? If you only have seen the CN episodes, you are in for one heck of a ride. It gets much better, trust me. :)

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I'm a big fan of the manga. I didn't think I'd like it originally, but it was pretty fun. Not exactly the most thought proking at times, but definately fun.

I've been shying away from the CN version, because I'm not a huge dub fan. And from what I heard it's pretty bad. I'll have to get my hands on an unedited and subbed version to try it out.

Right now, though, I'm in the middle of watching Full Metal Alchemist and Read Or Die. I have to thank everyone on these boards that was mentioning RoD, because the show kicks butt and is quite original.

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Bah, anyone who says the Dubbing on Naruto is bad are those stupid Narutard Zealots. ONOES HE R PRONUNCE IT WRUNG I R POST ON BLOG ABOUT ANGER GRRR!!11!!!!

The dubs fine.

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I totally agree. Although there isn't a debate that in most cases, subs are better. The dubs for Naruto really aren't that bad. I'd give it maybe a 7.5/10 or so. There's a thing you have to remember, if you've watched Naruto subbed 1-152 (153 today!) well then of course you're going to say the dubs suck. But if you're a true anime fan, you'd understand that if you had gone from never seeing Naruto, to just seeing the dubs.. it wouldn't seem that bad. But I don't think this is the place to get into a fight over the dub/sub issue...

verticalgambit

09-28-2005, 04:13 AM

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I totally agree. Although there isn't a debate that in most cases, subs are better. The dubs for Naruto really aren't that bad. I'd give it maybe a 7.5/10 or so. There's a thing you have to remember, if you've watched Naruto subbed 1-152 (153 today!) well then of course you're going to say the dubs suck. But if you're a true anime fan, you'd understand that if you had gone from never seeing Naruto, to just seeing the dubs.. it wouldn't seem that bad. But I don't think this is the place to get into a fight over the dub/sub issue...

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/signed

I have seen them all and can not wait to get the new one today/tomorrow. I have been watching the CN episodes and they are bearable. Just is not the same if you have seen all the episodes and heard the original episodes. I guess the high squeaky voices I hear on CN's version are more accurate to the age of the character, but it is disappointing in some ways. I still will be watching every Saturday :D

It like reading a book and then seeing the movie. Most of the time it is still enjoyable, but not the as good.

Daolong

09-28-2005, 04:14 AM

Naruto is pretty good... But my fave anime right now is Bleach.

Only 50 fansubbed episodes out for it right now though.

You can find it on narutocommunity.net.

Orochi

09-28-2005, 04:15 AM

Orochi

09-28-2005, 04:21 AM

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Naruto is pretty good... But my fave anime right now is Bleach.

Only 50 fansubbed episodes out for it right now though.

You can find it on narutocommunity.net.

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Bleach is currently suffering from "Needs to stop stalling" syndrom. The early chapters with their quick pacing and decent mix of humor, story, and action were much better then the latest stroll through death's village, at least they hurried up the time frame they can stay there in the last few episodes.

Also Kon for the win, King of New York (not really).

Rkik_Dnec

09-28-2005, 07:27 AM

HolyEvilAoD

09-28-2005, 07:43 AM

*resists urge to make sub/dubrant*

Rakeeb

09-28-2005, 08:32 AM

Eh. I like Naruto and all, but to me, the latest stuff doesn't have the same kick as the earlier work.

I mean, c'mon, Gaara being defeated by the Villain of the Day? I don't care how much hype they had, he'd still kick their [censored].

Kong_Fuu

09-28-2005, 09:06 AM

Semi-Spoiler alert

Eh as I see it the Bone Guy was really fast, and speed is Gaara's weakness (well that and the whole sanity thing). I mean Rock Lee did pretty good against him despite being otherwise completely outmatched. One needs pure destructive Chahkra behind their speedy attacks to get through the secondary defenses, and that's why Lee failed. The Bone Guy had both, and was an actual threat for Gaara as a result.

My favorite scene is the entire series is when Naruto had to shapeshift Gamma Bunti.

Youko

09-28-2005, 09:40 AM

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Well for all the people out there want to see the real world of anime. Check out this. (http://www.animesuki.com)

And for the most up to the min Naruto Subs you can check out this also. (http://yhbt.mine.nu/)

Just you wait and see what Fan Subbed anime is like to the.... how do i put it. crap we see Dubbed. Well not all dubbed is bad but lets face it. Anime is not anime when dubbed. :D

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You know, that's great and all if you've been watching the show for 2-3 years or whatever and are up to date, but if you're new and want much earlier episodes, you're pretty much SOL. Not to mention that BitTorrent (and whatever else is used to download that stuff) is a total pain to use.

Streamlined

09-28-2005, 10:52 AM

You know, Chouji KICKS [censored]!

TheVagrantBlade

09-28-2005, 11:35 AM

::Possible Spoilers::

Personally, I've really been liking the new stuff, especially Sakura not being useless and the showcasing new members of Akatsuki.

And, dear lord in heaven, Kakashi's eye in the latest manga! Sweet merciful crap!

As far as Gaara getting owned, I'd say I wouldn't mind it so much if it weren't Deidara. He just seems kinda lackluster compared to Sasori, Kisame, and Itachi.

::Spoilers Done::

On a semi related note, am I the only one in the universe who actually likes Sasuke as a character?

da5id

09-28-2005, 11:41 AM

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You know, that's great and all if you've been watching the show for 2-3 years or whatever and are up to date, but if you're new and want much earlier episodes, you're pretty much SOL. Not to mention that BitTorrent (and whatever else is used to download that stuff) is a total pain to use.

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BitTorrent isn't that hard to use. I use Azureus (java bittorrent client). Just make sure you have the right ports forwarded to your machine if you have a NAT.

If you want earlier eps, you can direct download them from Narutofan.com (http://www.narutofan.com) if you sign up for their NarutoFanPLUS membership I believe. (I don't have a PLUS membership so I'm not 100% sure about that, I've just kept up all the way along)

Streamlined

09-28-2005, 11:43 AM

Narutochaos.com people, it is free...you have to pay for that NarutofanPlus crap to DL the eps.

da5id

09-28-2005, 11:53 AM

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Narutochaos.com people, it is free...you have to pay for that NarutofanPlus crap to DL the eps.

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Hmmm.....
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This account has been suspended.
Either the domain has been overused, or the reseller ran out of resources.

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Streamlined

09-28-2005, 11:55 AM

yes, i just noticed that...but they were doing that a few weeks ago, and they were up yesterday. so hopefully they will be back.

DeathStarr

09-28-2005, 12:31 PM

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Naruto is pretty good... But my fave anime right now is Bleach.

Only 50 fansubbed episodes out for it right now though.

You can find it on narutocommunity.net.

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Bleach is only up to episdoe 51 :p
That just aired Tuesday in Japan. So far I've found two main subbing groups that are noteworthy; Lunar and Bleach-Society.

If you're into Quality, go Lunar. For speed, go B-S. Both are pretty good. I normally download the B-S version then get the Lunar version when it comes out. If there are some of you that don't know where to find Bleach, just head on over to AnimeSuki.com . If it's not licenced, chances are it's there. And for future reference to those who don't know, Bleach airs Tuesdays (for USA).

Streamlined

09-28-2005, 12:35 PM

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Naruto is pretty good... But my fave anime right now is Bleach.

Only 50 fansubbed episodes out for it right now though.

You can find it on narutocommunity.net.

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Bleach is only up to episdoe 51 :p
That just aired Tuesday in Japan. So far I've found two main subbing groups that are noteworthy; Lunar and Bleach-Society.

If you're into Quality, go Lunar. For speed, go B-S. Both are pretty good. I normally download the B-S version then get the Lunar version when it comes out. If there are some of you that don't know where to find Bleach, just head on over to AnimeSuki.com . If it's not licenced, chances are it's there. And for future reference to those who don't know, Bleach airs Tuesdays (for USA).

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on what channel?

LaFollet

09-28-2005, 01:11 PM

Not on any channel, but it airs (in Japan) on Tuesdays so you can expect a new sub Wednesday-Thursday.

Turbo_Ski

09-28-2005, 07:38 PM

I've stopped watching naruto entirely. The manga I keep up with but the anime just moves so incredibly slow. Bleach, the new Guyver TV series, Honey and Clover, Tsubasa Chronicle, Mahou Sensei Negima, and Full Metal Panic: the 2nd Raid are what I'm currently watching. I would probably feel the same about bleach as I do naruto if I was caught up on the bleach manga. Guyver and Honey&Clover are the ones I'm really hooked onto until the very end.

Mr_Hellcat

09-28-2005, 07:41 PM

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I've stopped watching naruto entirely. The manga I keep up with but the anime just moves so incredibly slow. Bleach, the new Guyver TV series, Honey and Clover, Tsubasa Chronicle, Mahou Sensei Negima, and Full Metal Panic: the 2nd Raid are what I'm currently watching. I would probably feel the same about bleach as I do naruto if I was caught up on the bleach manga. Guyver and Honey&Clover are the ones I'm really hooked onto until the very end.

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Which's ironic, since the Naruto anime's only currently moving slowly because there was a point where the anime was so caught up with the manga that all they had to seperate the two was the aftermath of the Naruto/Sasuke fight and the Kakashi flashback between them.

Personally, I don't mind the filler episodes, because there've been quite a few anime that've ended or stalled to the point of ending because they caught up to the manga and had nowhere to go.

Youko

09-28-2005, 09:46 PM

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BitTorrent isn't that hard to use. I use Azureus (java bittorrent client). Just make sure you have the right ports forwarded to your machine if you have a NAT.

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Then I must be quite the idiot, cause I can't make heads or tails of that stuff. XD

OtterWally

09-28-2005, 09:52 PM

He's right though, its very simple. You just download and install your client. Then find the BT files you want and open them, the clinet then asks you where you want to put them. Other than a few advanced features you probably don't want to fuss with that is pretty much it. Its only slightly more complicated then your standard download.

YeahJesus

09-28-2005, 10:24 PM

What ticked me off about Gaara being beaten is that he's the friggin KAZEKAGE! He shouldn't have been taken that easily, even though he did have to save all the citizens from the explosion cause Deidara's an a@@.
Anywho, am I the only who thinks Shino is awesome? He hides his expression with the glasses/collar combo. His bug jutsu is cool, and I just plain dig his voice. :p

Sor_Xedio

09-28-2005, 11:09 PM

If you've watched the japanese version of Naruto, you're not likely to find the dubbed version on CN to be too appealing. I for one think dubbed anime is garbage compared to the original, but that's just me. Just compare how Naruto says "Kage Bunshin no Jutsu!" in the original to "shadow clone jutsu!" in the CN version...it almost made me vomit.

Filler, filler, filler...when will it freakin' end already? It's seriously getting old. My friend says this last filler arc will be the last since they've showed all the teams by now. I wanna see Sakura smash things already! I like Rock Lee but I wish he'd get a part in which he actually beats someone for once. Yeah he's funny and likeable but he's been doing nothing but getting his [censored] handed to him (by Gaara and that bone guy whose name I forget).

Orochi

09-29-2005, 02:55 AM

I have seen the Japanese dub, and while I think the english one isn't steller, I hold as much contempt for the early Japanese dub as I do this english dub, they both weren't great, and it'll take a few episodes for their voices to sink in.

Also, the filler episode may not be done yet, they haven't shown the the part in the manga with Kakashi's past, and unless that's the next Naruto Movie, I doubt they'll skip it.

Here's a question I'm interested in, why does everyone hate filler so much? Yeah the main story isn't moving along, but that's still no reason for the contempt I've seen. Some of the better series out there are all filler driven, Cowboy Bebop, Azumanga Daioh, Rumiko Takahashi Theater, and Jing King of Bandits for examples.

Turbo_Ski

09-29-2005, 03:37 AM

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Here's a question I'm interested in, why does everyone hate filler so much? Yeah the main story isn't moving along, but that's still no reason for the contempt I've seen. Some of the better series out there are all filler driven, Cowboy Bebop, Azumanga Daioh, Rumiko Takahashi Theater, and Jing King of Bandits for examples.

[/ QUOTE ] Azumanga Daioh can't even be compared here since it's based off a comic strip and the show is just collection of shorts involving the same characters, there is no plot to it because it's simply a pure comedy. Cowboy Bebop is only a 26 episode series and all the "filler" as you put it was the plot. Shows like Naruto and DBZ use filler to prolong the show to keep the franchise going a bit longer. The problem isn't so much the fact that it's filler, but the fact that the filler episodes are consistently poorly done and misplaced. You'll notice a lot in Naruto that if they can't shove filler in they'll make fight scenes with unnecessary animations, long pauses, and often added in pointless dialog.

Orochi

09-29-2005, 04:08 AM

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Cowboy Bebop is only a 26 episode series and all the "filler" as you put it was the plot.

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Cowboy Bebop didn't have a plot until Vicious was introduced, and after that they only revisited on that plot line in 2 more "parts" (consisting of 4 episodes). Everything else was filler and background material.

Streamlined

09-29-2005, 07:13 AM

The plot was about Bounty Hunting. The Vicious eps were just background info. It is like Lupin III, they are theives.

Tank252ca

09-29-2005, 11:04 AM

I'm following quite a few shows currently:

I like Honey & Clover as well. It's refreshing to see someone go beyond highschool dramas and touch upon college life.

The first 30 episodes of Bleach were quite good. Then they got into power up mode, but I guess that's the fate of all shonen fighters. They're starting to get back into the main plot again but given the popularity of the show they may drag things out.

Yakitate is a blast. Who would have guessed that a show about baking could be so much fun to watch.

I'm also a One Piece fan. Triple dose of fansubs via Kaisoku, Balf and Gerusama.

Monster remains one of the best written thrillers to date. After 62 eps it doesn't feel drawn out and has maintained its intensity.

If you're into dating sims with plenty of cute girls, Shuffle! is hot property right now. Typical dating sim spin off but as good as any.

Have to admit that I'm drawn more to the less popular shows. The fansubs are slower to come out but worth the wait.

For a gothic loli show what could beat Tsukuyomi Moonphase? Mahou has almost finished subbing the series and has put up two batch torrents for all of the episodes to date, so you can still get in on this excellent series.

Petopeto-san is a cute twist on the monsters living with humans concept, as it features school aged kids and the monsters really aren't monsters. 4 eps out to date.

If you like Miyazaki movies, then Kamichu might appeal to you. It's what I imagine a Ghibli TV show would be like.

I love anything from Studio-C and Mohou Shoujo Tai is no exception. Great magical girl show with a unique look and well written plot. Started as a 12 minute spot within another show. It's only being subbed by AF-F, but they are re-releasing the subs as the R2 DVDs come out. Looks way better in wide screen than the original TV captures did.

Ichigo Mashimaro hasn't garnered a lot of attention, but it's one of my current favorites. Be sure to watch the second ep before deciding whether to follow it or not. An English grade school girl was raised in Japan and only speaks fluent Japanese, but she is bent on convincing her classmates that she is really English and doesn't speak Japanese very well. In the third episode she tries to recruit a schoolmate to teach her English to help in her ruse. Hilarious stuff!

And if you managed to read this far, here's a tip :). While AnimeSuki is one of the best known resources for BT links to fansubs, www.tokyotosho.com (http://www.tokyotosho.com) has links to just about everything, from raw (no subtitles) to English subs, foreign subs, raw and translated manga and some Japanese games too. Searchable index if looking for a particular series or sub group.

For BT clients I prefer BitComet. It's very easy to use, you can tailor upload and download speeds, choose specific files from within a batch torrent, and it works fine through my NAT router without port forwarding. I have it set to autostop when my share ratio reaches at least 1.0 so that I always upload at least as much as I download. Don't like being a leech. :P

Kong_Fuu

09-29-2005, 12:01 PM

The parts that kill me in Naruto is when you get started in a battle and then suddenly we get a flashback to how the guy Naruto is about to beat up was abused as a child and how he's all "I fight to be recognised!" now. Everytime it happens (in nearly every fight) the show just screeches to a halt.

Also, Yakitate!! Japan rules, especially how people go nuts over the simplest of things. OMG his hands are WARM! I couldn't stop laughing when our club finally got up to the French guys and they start making a big deal about flexible hands and fingers, and then the heros just start casually flapping their hands about to show how it's not a big deal.

shuyun

09-29-2005, 12:10 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Shows like Naruto and DBZ use filler to prolong the show to keep the franchise going a bit longer. The problem isn't so much the fact that it's filler, but the fact that the filler episodes are consistently poorly done and misplaced. You'll notice a lot in Naruto that if they can't shove filler in they'll make fight scenes with unnecessary animations, long pauses, and often added in pointless dialog.

[/ QUOTE ]

Heh, to tie it with the sub/dub thing...I like sub because I can watch at double+ speed and breeze through all the slow parts and still get all the verbal content. The major slowdown that I find in Naruto are the numerous flashbacks/replays.

Hmm, perhaps that's one of the reasons why people hate Sasuke...he has a lot of flashbacks, yet he doesn't have much screen time in the first place; furthermore, his flashbacks all increase his whininess (just how many times do we have to see that moment in his childhood vs his goal-in-life-enemy?). Naruto himself suffers from flashbacks, but at least he has a lot more regular footage evening things out.

Favorite charas for the record: Shikimaru, Hinata, Jiraiya, Kabuto.

BTW, what's the deal with the Tengai Makyo references in Naruto? Is the Naruto world set in Jipang? There's also Blue Seed legend references (Orochi, Snakes, Kusanagi,...). Are they all drawn from the same legend? Anyone in-the-know please explain! :)

edit: damn you Kong, I shall now flashback wanting to be recognized. damn you too, Work, for interfering with my coh-boarding! :p

Wild Card

09-29-2005, 12:26 PM

If you guys want a good Naruto site try

http://www.narutochuushin.com/

A great site. Especially if you know how to use IRC for your downloads.

Arilou

09-29-2005, 02:58 PM

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(Orochi, Snakes, Kusanagi,...). Are they all drawn from the same legend?

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Yep, it's basically *teh* Japanese legend.
(short-short version)
Susanoo, god of the winds and oceans, basically has a lot of random adventures, including slaying a big monster called... Kozu I think, this monster is also called something else that means "Eight-headed Snake" or something, inside the stomach he found a sword, Kusanagi-no-Mitsurugi (hence Orochimaru's attack, and why it comes out of a snake) He also conuers Korea and wipes out the plague.

shuyun

09-29-2005, 06:56 PM

Know how the Tengai Makyo stuff fit into the Susanoo legend?

Anthem_X

09-30-2005, 10:43 AM

Love this series. I've watched the first 130 episodes now, all subbed. I have to agree that the "flashbacks" tend to be way too frequent. If you think Sasuke is bad wait till Lee gets started. Might as well go make dinner when that happens cause you're gonna be watching the same cutscene a good two or three times in the same episode.

*cries* GUY SENSEEEEEEEEEEIII!!!!! /whinehugrepeat

Streamlined

09-30-2005, 10:56 AM

For some reason, I can stand ALL! of Lee's Flashbacks.

HolyEvilAoD

09-30-2005, 02:41 PM

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(Orochi, Snakes, Kusanagi,...). Are they all drawn from the same legend?

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Kozu I think, this monster is also called something else that means "Eight-headed Snake" or something

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The monster is primarily known as Orochi. I have never heard it referred to as Kozu.

Streamlined

10-01-2005, 02:18 PM

Im just wanting to know how they are going to do the Drunken Fist style during the Kimimaro fight.

Mr_Hellcat

10-01-2005, 06:03 PM

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Im just wanting to know how they are going to do the Drunken Fist style during the Kimimaro fight.

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They might actually keep that part in, for all we know. I can think of a few things that most likely will get edited, though.

Haku'll probably become a girl.
They'll edit the language (even the subbers do this, they swear a lot in most anime)
And they'll definitely edit.. this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/dancingkakashi/22.jpg)

Oh, and I hope they'll edit the first appearance of the Magenkyou Sharingan, since it seems like they decided they wanted to give it a nifty look after the manga issue and the anime episode both'd been released.

The_Adder

10-01-2005, 06:33 PM

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I totally agree. Although there isn't a debate that in most cases, subs are better. The dubs for Naruto really aren't that bad. I'd give it maybe a 7.5/10 or so. There's a thing you have to remember, if you've watched Naruto subbed 1-152 (153 today!) well then of course you're going to say the dubs suck. But if you're a true anime fan, you'd understand that if you had gone from never seeing Naruto, to just seeing the dubs.. it wouldn't seem that bad. But I don't think this is the place to get into a fight over the dub/sub issue...

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Well said comrade!!

This outcry against the Naruto dub is nothing new. I have seen this type of thing many a time. The dub is not bad, far from bad. It just takes time for people to get used to the new voices, duh. (Though people obviously fail to realize it. And just pounce.)

It happens almost everytime a new anime is dubbed and put up. Heck I remember crying for Inuyasha, FMA, I remember some for GitS too, but now people love them. This complaining will drop after a while it always does.

I dont care if it is dub or sub as long as I can watch it I am happy. (I just cant stand when Openings and Ending are butchered. Even then it doesn't make me angry. Just sad because it deprives others of the experience.)

Arilou

10-02-2005, 01:23 AM

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Haku'll probably become a girl.

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That would just be weird. And I really can't see a reason why.

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They'll edit the language (even the subbers do this, they swear a lot in most anime)

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This I think is partially because swearing has different "value scales" in different languages, eg. in some languages bodily functions are considered very rude, in others taking God's name in vain, etc. etc.

Mr_Hellcat

10-02-2005, 04:28 AM

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Haku'll probably become a girl.

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That would just be weird. And I really can't see a reason why.

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They'll edit the language (even the subbers do this, they swear a lot in most anime)

[/ QUOTE ]

This I think is partially because swearing has different "value scales" in different languages, eg. in some languages bodily functions are considered very rude, in others taking God's name in vain, etc. etc.

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There's a history of anime and manga when translated by official companies and such for release in the US, that they'll turn feminine looking male characters, ESPECIALLY when they have affections toward other male characters, into female characters. Maybe times've changed, but it depends on the company to be honest.

Streamlined

10-02-2005, 10:55 AM

Well, they didnt even show Sasuke all cut up with Kunais sticking out of him yesterday, so I doubt they will keep Lee getting drunk it...He'll drink some Red Bull instead now.

Orochi

10-02-2005, 08:29 PM

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Well, they didnt even show Sasuke all cut up with Kunais sticking out of him yesterday,

[/ QUOTE ]

When I saw it, he was.

Streamlined

10-02-2005, 11:08 PM

i guess i missed it, because i didnt see it at all....hhhhhmmmmmm

gSOLO

10-03-2005, 07:12 AM

I thought I missed him being all cut up too, but as I continued watching, they did show it.

OtterWally

10-04-2005, 10:50 PM

I can't wait to see what they do for Naruto's stabbing-a-knife-in-his-handwound scene at the beginning of the Zabuza arc.

How's that for a sentence that's inscrutable to an outsider.

Orochi

10-05-2005, 03:23 AM

if they do it "right" they'll only edit the masive ammount of blood, I'm more interested in what they do with the Dessert Coffin and some of the later stuff.

OtterWally

10-05-2005, 05:02 PM

I didn't find desert coffin to be all that bad. The show already censors itself compared to the manga. Kimimaro being the most salient example.

Orochi

10-05-2005, 08:51 PM

There's still a rain of Blood in the anime, that seems a bit much for a non-AS series on CN.

Streamlined

10-05-2005, 09:43 PM

thats because it is. they'll change it to rain.

Arilou

10-06-2005, 02:02 AM

Note that even in the animé they colour the blood black. But yah, it doubt the US censors will let that one through.

The_Chad

10-06-2005, 11:18 AM

New opening and closing for Naruto 154. I think it's my least favorite opening.

Streamlined

10-06-2005, 12:28 PM

that means ill love it????

Arilou

10-06-2005, 12:29 PM

Agreed.

And I think the art in some places looks really out of-place... As in, it doesen't look like Naruto at all :p

Mr_Hellcat

10-06-2005, 02:25 PM

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New opening and closing for Naruto 154. I think it's my least favorite opening.

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It wasn't that bad. Just.. extremely out of place. This really should've been shown when they began the filler episodes unless they're going to be showing more soon, because it'd just be out of place with Kakashi's arc (he should get his own opening!). I'm not sure I like the song.. but there were some pretty cool shots during it. I especially loved the shadowy Shino and the light reflecting off his glasses as he looked up or as the camera shifted direction.

OtterWally

10-08-2005, 06:29 PM

Well they kind of chickened out with the knife in his hand thing. But still I'm impressed with how little they are censoring since they are marketing this at the Toonami market, which is like 12 year olds. Of course that's who Naruto was made for in Japan but apparently 12 year olds here are especially stupid or impressionable.

Mr_Hellcat

10-08-2005, 06:30 PM

OMG! Spike from Cowboy Bebop's voice for Zabuza! That's incredibly fitting. I hated how they edited the kurenai in the hand thing, though. ..They edited out the dog crap part too didn't they? Or is that in the next episode? I hope they don't run episodes together.

Miss_Kitty

10-08-2005, 06:36 PM

Wow.. I am glad I waited out the first few episodes. The no knife in the hand was an obvious chicken out(even though I have never seen the original.. WAY TO OBVIOUS). Even with that..

YAAAYYY!! Good episode.. I liked it a lot.

OtterWally

10-08-2005, 06:39 PM

Its weird they kept all the blood but merely edited showing the knife actually in his hand. Granted he holds it there for an unpleasant amount of time while he speechifies. Still that was a lot of blood. Believe it! Datte bayo!

Miss_Kitty

10-08-2005, 06:48 PM

I take it this is where the series really starts taking off?

Again.. glad I decided to wait out the first episodes.

OtterWally

10-08-2005, 06:56 PM

Yes and how. This Zabuza/Haku arc is one of the most compelling I've ever seen and really shows how this story works. Often in anime a character change seems irrational and merely there to serve the plot. Not so here. If they do it right you may just cry at the end of it.

Miss_Kitty

10-08-2005, 07:01 PM

Bwahaha.. the kitty cat hunt..

::Watches the episode agan::

>^n.n^<

Arilou

10-09-2005, 01:57 AM

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I take it this is where the series really starts taking off?

Again.. glad I decided to wait out the first episodes.

[/ QUOTE ]

Depends, the first arc is basically an introduction (we get to know the characters and somewhat what they can do, at least the main ones)

The series really takes off *after* this arc though.

Mr_Hellcat

10-09-2005, 01:01 PM

It's time to see just how strong your guys' self-control is. *patented evil grin*

Here's (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=21572) a heavily spoiler-laden AMV for the first real Naruto arc involving Zabuza and Haku set to Marilyn Manson's the Beautiful People. I love it so much I had to share.

Ravenstorm_NA

10-11-2005, 11:35 AM

The Zabuza story arc was really good, but the fog spanning over 3 episodes really got to me after awhile. I was begging for a color episode after that.

My favorite arc though has to be the Chunin exams though. That's gonna be intense if you haven't seen it before. :)

The_Chad

10-11-2005, 11:38 AM

Yup, this is where it all picks up, and if it doesn't hook you here... you just suck.

Arilou

10-11-2005, 12:05 PM

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The Zabuza story arc was really good, but the fog spanning over 3 episodes really got to me after awhile. I was begging for a color episode after that.

That's gonna be intense if you haven't seen it before. :)

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Yep :p

Especially Shikamaru, he rocks :p

Streamlined

10-11-2005, 12:05 PM

Zabuza was a cooler arc than the Chuunin Exams...Chuunin Exams just lasted WAY TOO LONG! and come on...sand that powerful?

Gulver

10-11-2005, 12:18 PM

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...sand that powerful?

[/ QUOTE ]Anything can be devasting if used properly.

Arilou

10-11-2005, 12:20 PM

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Zabuza was a cooler arc than the Chuunin Exams...Chuunin Exams just lasted WAY TOO LONG! and come on...sand that powerful?

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Sand rocks :p Especially Temari.

Rajani Isa

10-11-2005, 12:28 PM

Yeah, think about it - it is really hard to destroy sand - and we are talking about a show were a kid summoms a gigantic frog and then trasnform it and himself into a giant fox...

Your worried about someone manipulating sand?

Icerian

10-11-2005, 12:28 PM

Well Gaara just like Naruto has a demon within in him. The main difference is that Gaara's demon can get out completely, while Naruto's can only help out for his own survival. If Naruto dies, the demon won't die persay but will be trapped forever, or a really long time.

My favorite arc is the Sasuke/Naruto fight when each of the team takes on 1 of the sound 4 and in the end it is Naruto vs. Sasuke and we see a really good fight scene.

Mr_Hellcat

10-11-2005, 01:10 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Well Gaara just like Naruto has a demon within in him. The main difference is that Gaara's demon can get out completely, while Naruto's can only help out for his own survival. If Naruto dies, the demon won't die persay but will be trapped forever, or a really long time.

My favorite arc is the Sasuke/Naruto fight when each of the team takes on 1 of the sound 4 and in the end it is Naruto vs. Sasuke and we see a really good fight scene.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hell yeah I love the Sasuke leaving arc. Chouji's so badass in that.. and episode 124's by far my favorite episode. How can you go wrong with Lee's drunken fist style and my god the ending of that episode! EEEEE! /geek

Ravenstorm_NA

10-11-2005, 01:30 PM

Heh... I was trying to not post spoilers for all of our CN-restricted viewers here, but ah well... yeah, the Sasuke leaving arc was the best one thus far. :)

Orochi

10-11-2005, 01:52 PM

I liked the Zabusa arc and the arc leading up to Sasuke leaving, but the Chuunin arc bored me a bit, I dislike tourneys.

verticalgambit

10-11-2005, 02:04 PM

I am thinking that episodes 130-140 really got me wanting to move to Japan. :D

Just finished 154 and Rock Lee is the MAN!!!!!!!!

The_Chad

10-11-2005, 02:09 PM

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Zabuza was a cooler arc than the Chuunin Exams...Chuunin Exams just lasted WAY TOO LONG! and come on...sand that powerful?

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Sand rocks :p Especially Temari.

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Mmmmm, Temari.

Streamlined

10-11-2005, 02:53 PM

im talking about Rock Lee's and Gaara'as fight, i dont care how goo Gaara claims to be, just turning his gourd into sand wouldnt save him from getting knocked out by the frce that Rock Lee used.

The_Chad

10-11-2005, 02:56 PM

He still had the Armor of Sand too. It was weakening, but it was still there. That's what saved him, along with his gourd.

LunarKnight

10-11-2005, 03:16 PM

I'm not a huge Jump fan *ducks* *weaves* Ouch, forgot they nerfed weave... Anyway, I started watching the CN version to see what all the fuss was about, and I have one question because I find this distractingly bad:

Does Naruto have a problem with telling people to "believe it"? I simply can't watch the show as this phrase keeps popping up in places that baffle me. Last week I gained a new favorite when Naruto screamed:

"Yeah Yeah Believe It Believe It Yeah Believe It YEAH"

Could someone please help clarify this "it" I should be believing?

Kong_Fuu

10-11-2005, 03:31 PM

I havn't seen the CN version, but it sounds like that's how CN translated Naruto's incessent need to be recognised by the village at large. It is his driving motivation for becoming the Hokage at the start of the series. After awhile he stops talking about that (mostly) and lets us get on with the story.

Naruto is one of those series that have absolutely amazing fight sequences...padded with flashbacks detailing the backstory of every character present.

Orochi

10-11-2005, 04:00 PM

In the Japanese version he's saying "Dattebayo" (I think), which I'm unsure what (or if) it means. It happens in alot of anime where a character will attach something to the end of their sentence that doesn't mean anything, Rurouni Kenshin was famous for this with "Oro."

Xaphan

10-11-2005, 04:25 PM

Yep. Dattebayo is meaningless. Just think of it as a weird accent or something, like how all Canadians are required by law to finish every sentence with "Eh". Something like that.

I guess that the translators decided Dattebayo means "believe it"... yeah, it could get a tad bit annoying...

LunarKnight

10-11-2005, 07:26 PM

Lol, that explains it.

It's really simple to recreate the effect in your head. Just add "believe it" to the end of any sentence you say, regardless of the context.

It gets really irritating, believe it! :D

Youko

10-11-2005, 07:52 PM

I watched the first few episodes of Naruto on Cartoon Network and that "believe it!" he keeps tacking onto the end of sentences bugged the heck out of me. Eventually I just gave up and downloaded the whole series. Great series, love the fights, hate the (many) flashbacks. Fights in a lot of other anime just seem really bland now... XD

OtterWally

10-11-2005, 08:33 PM

I would be upset if they hadn't given Naruto something to tack onto his sentences. "Believe it" is good enough, better than "rum dum diddle."

Captain_Bavaria

10-11-2005, 09:02 PM

Hurm, anime threads. I should stop by more often.

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The first 30 episodes of Bleach were quite good. Then they got into power up mode, but I guess that's the fate of all shonen fighters. They're starting to get back into the main plot again but given the popularity of the show they may drag things out.

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I'ld say Bleach was quite good up through the high teens. Right after .. uh, the significant plot event .. they went into an endless mix of 3-episode training sequences and 3-episode fights. At least we've started getting some politics in between them now, but its still not as good as the early show.

Never got into naruto. I still have a few more subs sitting somewhere to give it another try.

I still need to watch an epside of CN's FMA, watched it all subbed and I've been wondering how good the dub is.

Watched one random episode of One Piece (subbed) .. don't think I'll be doing that again.

I normally love CLAMP, but I couldn't quite get into Tsubasa Chronicle for some reason.

Currently watching .. ug ..
Bleach
FMP: The 2nd Raid
Tsukuyomi Moon Phase
Kamichu!
Gakuen Alice
Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan
Pani Poni Dash

.. when I look at that list, I think I might have some issues.

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While AnimeSuki is one of the best known resources for BT links to fansubs, www.tokyotosho.com (http://www.tokyotosho.com) has links to just about everything, from raw (no subtitles) to English subs, foreign subs, raw and translated manga and some Japanese games too. Searchable index if looking for a particular series or sub group.

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Now thats a nice site. I normally hit Baka-Updates.com, which seems to track AnimeSuki pretty closely.

Arilou

10-11-2005, 11:10 PM

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Bleach
FMP: The 2nd Raid
Tsukuyomi Moon Phase
Kamichu!
Gakuen Alice
Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan
Pani Poni Dash

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I'm currently watching:
Basilisk: Kouga Ninpou Chou
FMP: TSR
Shuffle!
Monster
The Snow Queen
Blood+
Naruto
Bleach.

DKellis

10-12-2005, 02:16 PM

I generally give an anime fifteen to twenty episodes to catch my attention. (Generous, especially since most anime are either thirteen or twenty-six episodes.) Sadly, Naruto did not do so after eighteen. I'm never sure what the hype is all about.

AnimeSuki lists only unlicenced anime, which is kind of straddling the line of legality. TokyoTosho and Baka-Updates list both licenced and unlicenced, which are definitely not so legal.

Not sure what the CoH forums' policy on such are.

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I normally love CLAMP, but I couldn't quite get into Tsubasa Chronicle for some reason.

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Tsubasa Chronicle the anime is a Bee Train production, which means that they suffer the same pacing problems as Noir did. And yet oddly enough, when they do an anime-only story (not "adapted" from the manga), the episode is actually not bad. I'm not sure what's up with that.

The manga itself... well, it has the feeling of CLAMP patting themselves on the back for being clever. Its popularity is based on the same thing that made FF7 Advent Children so popular.

Currently I'm following... well, way too many anime. But those that I'm actually watching, as in right after it's available and immediately after I get it, would be:

Mai Otome (or My ZHime, as the official site seems to put it)
Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's
Ichigo Mashimaro
Tsukuyomi Moon Phase
Kamichu
Pani Poni Dash

... yeah, I definitely have problems.

Arilou

10-12-2005, 02:29 PM

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Not sure what the CoH forums' policy on such are.

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Considering that one of the Game designers has definately watched far ahead of the US release.... :p

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Sadly, Naruto did not do so after eighteen. I'm never sure what the hype is all about.

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Give it until episode 30 or so. As you said, a regular series is supposed to "tell it's tale" in 13-26 episodes. A "long" one in 52. Naruto's kind has hundreds of episodes to tell it's stories, so they have a lot of time to do introductionary storylines before they actually start with the main plot.

Try watching through at least the Chuunin Exam arc, Naruto's strengths are basicall twofold: A) The fight scenes. Some are just amazing (others are crap :p You can clearly see that they don't have a steady budget but sometimes decide to blow a lot of cash on a single episode :p ) If you don't enjoy watching exquisitely coreographed fight scenes with super-powered ninjas it's not really a show for you. B) The characters. Not the plot, but the characters themselves. There's a HUGE gallery Most of them get introduced in the Chuunin Exam arc (roughly episodes 20-50 or so, after that "introductions" are done) If you don't find anyone you find interesting and makes the series worth watching it's not for you :p

DKellis

10-12-2005, 02:44 PM

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Try watching through at least the Chuunin Exam arc, Naruto's strengths are basicall twofold: A) The fight scenes. Some are just amazing (others are crap :p You can clearly see that they don't have a steady budget but sometimes decide to blow a lot of cash on a single episode :p ) If you don't enjoy watching exquisitely coreographed fight scenes with super-powered ninjas it's not really a show for you. B) The characters. Not the plot, but the characters themselves. There's a HUGE gallery Most of them get introduced in the Chuunin Exam arc (roughly episodes 20-50 or so, after that "introductions" are done) If you don't find anyone you find interesting and makes the series worth watching it's not for you :p

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Fair enough. I know Get Backers (52 episodes) got me hooked at about episode seven or so (I forget exactly), Bomberman Jetterz (also 52 eps) after two eps, and Full Moon wo Sagashite (was it 49 or 52? Somewhere around there) after five. So yeah, 30 eps is a bit too much investment in time, unless the series is really, really good.

I suppose part of the problem why I don't like Naruto, apart from the feeling that it wouldn't matter if I missed an episode or ten, is that the reasons that you stated for liking the series don't seem to be there. I like impressive fight sequences, but not of the "power-up" or "special secret technique that must be explained breathlessly" variety. (In fact, every bystander to a fight that goes into a detailed description and explanation of a Super Move means points taken away from the series. Extra points if they include "that's impossible!" or some such.)

As for the characters, I had an instant dislike for Naruto himself, and the others, while relatively inoffensive, couldn't make up for that.

It's all subjective, I realize. So I suppose Naruto is one of those things that I'll have to classify as "other people like it but I don't", like Anne Rice and Harry Potter.

Tabris

10-12-2005, 07:18 PM

Tabris feel Hyuuga Neji has greatest potential for ninja-ness. Tabris like Naruto, but cannot relate well to such a character.

*SMASHES... :mad: and watches Bleach :D*

Tabris

10-12-2005, 07:24 PM

Tabris SMASH Freudian slip!!!! :mad:

TheFallenStar

10-12-2005, 09:39 PM

By far, the best arc in Naruto, is the team of 5

:)

LunarKnight

10-12-2005, 09:52 PM

The other thing that continues to grate on me in the US dub of Naruto is the use of Japanese words followed by an explanation of what the word needs. So far my favorite is:

"Lord Hokage, Naruto has become quite reckless since becoming a Genin, a ninja trainiee."

You think maybe the Hokage understands the ninja ranks without his underlings explaining it to him?

Anyway, I'm firmly in the "I don't get it" camp. I'll tune in later when it supposedly gets better, but for now I'll probably ignore it, Believe it. :p

OtterWally

10-12-2005, 10:07 PM

Now you're just being facetious, of course Hokage knows what it means, its for those of us who don't know what it means. Heaven forbid we let people use context to understand a word.

And you'll probably never like it if you aren't at least a little interested now. This is pretty much what it is. What I really like though is, Naruto would probably be a secondary character in another show. Someone like Sasuke usually stars. Naruto is just trying to be the best and not be lonely anymore, Sasuke has a quest, a mission in life. I've seen so many shows with these great secondary characters and boring primaries. This show is all about that plucky comic relief guy, its all about that surprisingly powerful (but of course not the most powerful) guy. Anyone understand that?

Arilou

10-12-2005, 11:15 PM

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, but not of the "power-up" or "special secret technique that must be explained breathlessly" variety.

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Hehe, that *can* be annoying. But on the other Hnad Naruto (unlike say... Bleach) actually has some tactics involved at times (especially with Shikamaru :p ) Deception plays a bigger role than is customary.

And the vast majority of the cast do not get *introduced* until episode 24 or something. And then it's "Hey My names X!" kind of introduction, they won't actually get any screentime until the chuunin prelim exam most of 'em.

That said, Getbackers was (as you said) 52 episodes. naruto is *thus far*155, and the story isn't even close to done yet (halfway actually)

Mr_Hellcat

10-13-2005, 01:51 AM

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By far, the best arc in Naruto, is the team of 5

:)

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Team of 5? *scratches head* Ohhh! Yeah, that's good. My favorite episode's in that. :)

Here I thought you were talking Team of 4 which's I think the latest one in the manga.

Speaking of.. for those of you that've read the most recent manga chapter. Is this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/dancingkakashi/possiblefuturegaara.jpg) what we have to look forward to? x_X

Let me just edit this real quick like..

Since we're on the topic of pictures. Which should I go with for my next icon?

Real men have butterfly wings (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/dancingkakashi/choujiicon.jpg)?
You (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/dancingkakashi/bringit.jpg)?
Better times (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/dancingkakashi/bettertimes.jpg)?
Or Love/hate (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/dancingkakashi/lovehate.jpg) ?

Prince_Tycho

10-13-2005, 08:29 AM

Gah... I am SO lost... I've only seen the episodes that have come on CN. Definitely looks cool enough to make me want to see more. But only seeing one new episode a week is going to kill me....

rickeydute

10-13-2005, 09:53 AM

Funny how you love the CN version and people like me who have seen the jp version just hate the CN version. It is way too edited. I mean, come on! They edited when Naruto used the kunai to stab himself to get the poison out of his hand. How stupid is that?!

And The Sasuke leaving arc is the best one yet and I think the longest too? I dont know the Chunin exam was great as well.

Oh and I hate the stupid CN opening!! GAH!!! The song is stupid and everything! Why didnt they used Haruka Hanata from Asian Kung-Fu Gen. I think that wouldve been the most appropiate one.

The_Chad

10-13-2005, 10:01 AM

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Oh and I hate the stupid CN opening!! GAH!!! The song is stupid and everything! Why didnt they used Haruka Hanata from Asian Kung-Fu Gen. I think that wouldve been the most appropiate one.

[/ QUOTE ] Cause apparently we Americans are too stupid to like Japanese music. We have to have dumbed down stuff.

Orochi

10-13-2005, 10:45 AM

Mr_Hellcat

10-13-2005, 11:19 AM

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Oh and I hate the stupid CN opening!! GAH!!! The song is stupid and everything! Why didnt they used Haruka Hanata from Asian Kung-Fu Gen. I think that wouldve been the most appropiate one.

[/ QUOTE ] Cause apparently we Americans are too stupid to like Japanese music. We have to have dumbed down stuff.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not so sure that's the real reason for the changed intro. I mean look at Fullmetal Alchemist, that's a great japanese song. I'd have to say they do crap like change the Naruto intro and the One Piece intro *shudder* because the intro changes so blasted often so they think it might confuse people. But at least they kept the intro in. I remember for awhile on CN when they'd show anime and they wouldn't show the intro with the exception of shows like Cowboy Bebop.

Orochi

10-13-2005, 12:16 PM

the did change FMA's intro, that song is the second opening, "Ready, Steady, Go!" Before that song, "Melissa," and after "Undo," have not been shown, they're still in the right order on the DVDs though.

Captain_Bavaria

10-13-2005, 09:23 PM

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I generally give an anime fifteen to twenty episodes to catch my attention. (Generous, especially since most anime are either thirteen or twenty-six episodes.) Sadly, Naruto did not do so after eighteen. I'm never sure what the hype is all about.

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I'm probably just reluctant to commit to watching anything longer than a season. Anything longer than two seasons, doubly so, etc ;)

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Mai Otome (or My ZHime, as the official site seems to put it)

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Mai .. Hime?
*runs off to animeinfo.com*
Okay, add that to the list.
*runs off to start download*
Thanks! :)

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Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's
Ichigo Mashimaro
Tsukuyomi Moon Phase
Kamichu
Pani Poni Dash

... yeah, I definitely have problems.

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As long as Dokuro-chan isn't on the list, you're probably not that far gone ..

DKellis

10-13-2005, 09:37 PM

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Mai .. Hime?
*runs off to animeinfo.com*
Okay, add that to the list.
*runs off to start download*
Thanks! :)

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It's an alternate universe version of Mai HiME, and so far I like it. (Then again, I loved the infamous "panty episode" (number 4) of the original series, and I thought the last episode rocked. It's a "like it or hate it" kind of thing.)

I've heard plenty of complaints that "it's not Mai HiME at all!", but as a random comment I saw stated, American comics fans should be well-versed in multiple continuities and universes and canons.

Personally, I just want costumes like those to be added to the CoH character creator.

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As long as Dokuro-chan isn't on the list, you're probably not that far gone ..

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I'm actually following Dokuro-chan, but am not really watching it as such. I do watch it eventually, though. And then weep for the species.

Arilou

10-13-2005, 11:30 PM

Mai Hime was Okay. Certainly far better than I expected. But the happy, happy ending kind of turned me off. The IDEA was good though, even if you could see it a mile away :p

Prince_Tycho

10-14-2005, 08:27 AM

Well, if the CN version of the show is so bad, where could someone find copies of the 'real' version? Or of the episodes that haven't been seen yet?

The_Chad

10-14-2005, 08:41 AM

Here. (http://www.narutofan.com)

Streamlined

10-14-2005, 09:02 AM

Go here instead, it is free. (http://narutochaos.com/)

The_Chad

10-14-2005, 09:11 AM

Naruto fan is free too.

Streamlined

10-14-2005, 09:13 AM

no it isnt...try and DL one, and then tell me it doesnt cost money.

Prince_Tycho

10-14-2005, 09:54 AM

Sweet. Thanks all. Looks like my cable modem will be getting a workout this weekend....

Arilou

10-14-2005, 12:24 PM

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no it isnt...try and DL one, and then tell me it doesnt cost money.

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Actually they have bittorrents that are free. It's only direct download they charge for.

The_Chad

10-14-2005, 12:51 PM

Yeah, I have a free account there.

The_Chad

10-14-2005, 01:55 PM

Game news.

- Tomy announced they have pushed up the release date of the GameCube anime fighting game Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen 4 to November 21, 2005.

It was the end of the year. Yay, more money to spend..

Streamlined

10-14-2005, 08:59 PM

I cant DL Bittorrents off that site.

Arilou

10-15-2005, 02:41 AM

Streamlined: Then you are odd, because I can :p

gSOLO

10-15-2005, 06:05 AM

I spent ~$16 at narutofan to get episodes 1 - 154 and watched them all in about 10 days. Speedy downloads &c were well worth only a few bucks.

Orochi

10-15-2005, 10:54 AM

I do hate it when people charge for an esencially illegal feature...

Turbo_Ninja

10-18-2005, 09:48 AM

I hate it when people charge for something you can get for free. If you wanted it that bad I would have mailed it to you.

Naruto is one of the best animes I have seen in a long time. It has great characters. CN has done a pretty good job in translating them. When will they get to episode 133 who knows.

I'm currently watching:
Naruto
Bleach
BlackCat
Trinity Blood

The_Chad

10-18-2005, 11:22 AM

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I spent ~$16 at narutofan to get episodes 1 - 154 and watched them all in about 10 days. Speedy downloads &c were well worth only a few bucks.

[/ QUOTE ]I downloaded them from bit torrent for free, watched them in a few days. Speedy Downloads were well worth the... umm, no money spent.

Mr_Hellcat

10-18-2005, 01:53 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I spent ~$16 at narutofan to get episodes 1 - 154 and watched them all in about 10 days. Speedy downloads &c were well worth only a few bucks.

[/ QUOTE ]I downloaded them from bit torrent for free, watched them in a few days. Speedy Downloads were well worth the... umm, no money spent.

[/ QUOTE ]

Or you could follow the links in narutofan's bit torrent section and go to I believe gotwoot and d/l the bundles. Sure, it'll take a little bit longer, but it's free.

gSOLO

10-19-2005, 04:40 AM

I understand yall's annoyance with people charging for stuff that is free. And then there's the whole legality issue... In my case the torrents were taking too long for my liking and I had no issues paying a few bucks to get the episodes faster. No biggie, sorry for the disruption to the thread.

st4ticblu3

10-20-2005, 10:07 AM

I have watched 155 episodes and two movies (hidden falls and snow princess). Is there more or do we have to wait.

As for the subject above. I use Kazaa K++ and I can DL 15 episodes in about an hour or so. I have a 11mps cable connection.

I WANT MORE NARUTO!!!!

gSOLO

10-20-2005, 10:11 AM

156 went out last night. They air every week.

Mr_Hellcat

10-20-2005, 12:08 PM

Well, that new intro makes sense now, unfortunately.

This (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/dancingkakashi/meh.jpg) was in the fansubber notes section this week for #156. *sigh* I just hope they don't suck as bad as this arc. God, I hate Raiga and that whiny curry guy.. and the curry of life. *dies*

I wouldn't mind filler episodes if they were along the lines of the Tea Country arc.. but seriously, this current arc blows.

The_Chad

10-20-2005, 12:15 PM

Well, today, Rock removed the weights again. I'm hoping to see some kick [censored] fighting. Ten Ten was also cool, summoning the weapons from the scrolls.

Arilou

10-20-2005, 12:44 PM

The worst part is that Naruto has become my "bored watching" thing. I just keep watching it without even thinking about it.

LaFollet

10-20-2005, 01:36 PM

I'm so there with the filler arcs, just a wonderful amount of resounding "Meh!"

Of course waiting for the 25-50 bundle of Bleach to be released before watching them has me staying up late to watch those episodes. :D

Orochi

10-20-2005, 03:33 PM

This is definarly the "how long can we drag this arc out" arc, I'm really starting to hate this arc, Everyone but Ten Ten sems to be very under powered, even weight-less Lee just lame, especially when compaired to "stand around and shoot lightning" guy.

The other arcs were enjoyable, this one is poorly drawn, poorly written and has some poor character designs (that don't even look like they come from Naruto), so hopefully the next arc is better, and the next episode ends this arc.

gSOLO

10-20-2005, 04:05 PM

Agree, the current arc isn't doing it for me; and the curry of life stuff is kind of annoying / weird.

23 more episodes of filler before it gets back to the manga story...

Mr_Hellcat

10-20-2005, 04:29 PM

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Agree, the current arc isn't doing it for me; and the curry of life stuff is kind of annoying / weird.

23 more episodes of filler before it gets back to the manga story...

[/ QUOTE ]

23 episodes which.. now that I think about it, makes sense. A lot of the more recent volumes of the manga could easily be squished a few an episode and not have things be rushed.

I mean.. where a flashback or visual representation of an internal struggle may take an entire issue of a manga, the anime has it down pat and they can do numerous an episode and even combine any number of the two!

st4ticblu3

10-21-2005, 03:55 AM

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156 went out last night. They air every week.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thx, DLing it now. Is there any other movies too. I watched "Hidden Falls" and "Snow Princess".

da5id

10-22-2005, 09:49 AM

Filler arcs till Spring of 2006!!!! Awww crap.

linky (http://www.livejournal.com/community/chuunin/1539080.html#cutid1) :mad:

Mr_Hellcat

10-22-2005, 02:44 PM

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Filler arcs till Spring of 2006!!!! Awww crap.

linky (http://www.livejournal.com/community/chuunin/1539080.html#cutid1) :mad:

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually! It says the episodes where Naruto's grown up will start in Spring, 2006. But! Well, know what they have to show before Naruto comes back after the jump?

LIL KAKASHI AND YONDAIME! WHOO!!!

da5id

10-22-2005, 03:43 PM

That's true, but kakashi gaiden will probably take place at the END of the filler arcs. :( And I want to see powered up sakura damnit!
:D

OtterWally

10-22-2005, 06:29 PM

Yes! I love that episode. First time we get to see Naruto's freakish strategery in the face of adversity.

_Ilr_

10-22-2005, 06:41 PM

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Actually! It says the episodes where Naruto's grown up will start in Spring, 2006. But! Well, know what they have to show before Naruto comes back after the jump?

LIL KAKASHI AND YONDAIME! WHOO!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

I dunno what you just said but it sounded like a DragonballGT "plot" so I hate it already

da5id

10-22-2005, 09:06 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Actually! It says the episodes where Naruto's grown up will start in Spring, 2006. But! Well, know what they have to show before Naruto comes back after the jump?

LIL KAKASHI AND YONDAIME! WHOO!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

I dunno what you just said but it sounded like a DragonballGT "plot" so I hate it already

[/ QUOTE ]

It's not. It's basically the story of Kakashi's childhood and his special eye.

It hates YOU already :p

The_Chad

10-23-2005, 06:32 AM

I bought a pair of kunai yesterday at Onicon, they are cool! I haven't stabbed myself yet, but give me time. I also have a picture for you Paranoia Agent fans. I'll post it as soon as I upload all my pictures.

Arilou

10-23-2005, 01:42 PM

Just thought I'd remind y'all who are in the King of Fighter's Draft that there *are* three Naruto fighting games for the GC, two (three?) for the PS2 and two for the Gameboy Advance :p

Prince_Tycho

10-24-2005, 08:03 AM

Well, I've downloaded and watching up to Episode 75 so far. Currently Downloading the 76-100 batch. There are a bunch of questions that are running throuigh my head; many are simple things like if we'll see more of Hinata and other fringe characters, and such.

However, since hearing the Hokage describe the Fourth's 'soul binding' technique, I'm a bit confused. If the person doing it gives up his life, and if the person in which the soul is bound dies, the bound soul dies, why didn't the Fourth bind the Nine-Tails into himself so that it would be destroyed when he died? I don't expect an explanation here from anyone, but I was just curious if the Fourth bound the Nine-Tails into Naruta for some specific reason when he could have destroyed it by binding it to himself and dieing?

Nemo979

10-24-2005, 08:09 AM

I've been wondering some things about that as well. I mean.. the fourth bound Kyuubi in Naruto but where did Naruto come from? Did he have an actual mother and father or was he created by the fourth just to contain the 9 tails? This may have been answered in the first few japanese episodes because i've only seen 7 on in the original non dubbed version *shrugs*

The_Chad

10-24-2005, 08:13 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I've been wondering some things about that as well. I mean.. the fourth bound Kyuubi in Naruto but where did Naruto come from? Did he have an actual mother and father or was he created by the fourth just to contain the 9 tails? This may have been answered in the first few japanese episodes because i've only seen 7 on in the original non dubbed version *shrugs*

[/ QUOTE ]Nobody that watches the anime knows yet. I Don't know if it is said in the manga or not. He is speculated to be the 4th's son, since they look alike. and that his mother died during birth. Naruto was born the night the nine-tails attacked. People think the reason the 4th was late getting to the battle is cause his wife was giving birth to Naruto.

Prince_Tycho

10-24-2005, 08:24 AM

That'd make sense, and I could easily buy into that.

However, I'm still unsure about why the Fourth didn't bind the Nine-Tails into himself and kill it when he died. I really hope that there was a reason why they did this, and that it doesn't turn out to be 'bad writing'. Even if it's something as simple as Naruta's birth was premature, and he would have died if the Fourth hadn't bound the Nine-Tails inside him to lend his strength and enable him to survive...

Arilou

10-24-2005, 09:52 AM

The reason (that is being hinted at by Gaara) seems to be that these kinds of monsters are just too valuable to just kill. In Ninja Warfare they're the equivalent to a Nuclear Warhead.

da5id

10-24-2005, 10:54 AM

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That'd make sense, and I could easily buy into that.

However, I'm still unsure about why the Fourth didn't bind the Nine-Tails into himself and kill it when he died. I really hope that there was a reason why they did this, and that it doesn't turn out to be 'bad writing'. Even if it's something as simple as Naruta's birth was premature, and he would have died if the Fourth hadn't bound the Nine-Tails inside him to lend his strength and enable him to survive...

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It could be that Naruto IS the fourth, who found a way to still stay alive through the death god binding by being reborn. Just wild speculation... :)

Mr_Hellcat

10-24-2005, 11:24 AM

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I agree with you on this one. Personally, I think the Fourth did it because he knew eventually Naruto and the Kyuubi's chakra would begin to bleed together, giving Naruto an immense amount of chakra to use.

I myself think he's the Fourth's son. IIRC, Naruto's name itself is not only applicable to his nature, but aspects of the Rasengan as well. The reason why no one knows why he's the Fourth's son, then? Most likely illegitimate child with someone from another village they didn't have the best of relationships with at the time.

It's really sad to think of how Naruto and Gaara were just a minor change on their village's parts from becoming each other.

-I apologize if this looks like crap, I just woke up.. will fix at work if need be. Shh, need coffee now.

Prince_Tycho

10-24-2005, 12:21 PM

Not sure I can buy into that idea, myself. The Hokage's of Konoha have always said that protecting their people, families, etc. is what's important to them and what gives them strength. I have a hard time seeing any of them being willing to make the sacrifice of turning a baby into a weapon/tool to be used like that. I have a hard time seeing anything putting such values on a life. That's just my opinion, though.

Arilou

10-24-2005, 01:04 PM

Just recall that both Orochimaru and Itachi where originally from the Leaf, and that they where both very much respected. You don't get that kind of people unless there is a certain pressure to be the strongest...

Mr_Hellcat

10-24-2005, 02:00 PM

And also keep in mind that some leaders might think a powerful weapon fighting for them'd be the best way to defend their village. Look at what Kazekage did to his poor kid.

EspyLacopa

10-24-2005, 03:08 PM

I hope you realize that for some time, the Kazekage was actually Orochimaru. . .

Arilou

10-24-2005, 03:22 PM

Yep, but it wasn't Orochimaru who put a demon inside Gaara at birth.

EDIT: If you believe in Naruto/Gaara paralells.... Gaara's father was the fourth Kazekage....

Mr_Hellcat

10-24-2005, 03:24 PM

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I hope you realize that for some time, the Kazekage was actually Orochimaru. . .

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Yeah, but I doubt if he replaced the Kazakage and then knocked up Gaara's mom as the Kazekage, that the Kazekage's body would be found rotting in a hole after the botched attack on Konoha. :P

da5id

10-24-2005, 03:37 PM

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I hope you realize that for some time, the Kazekage was actually Orochimaru. . .

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I believe that Orochimaru only replaced the Kazekage shortly before the whole Chuunin exam plot.

st4ticblu3

10-26-2005, 08:54 AM

Orochimaru killed the Kazekage before the exam. Judging from the location of the Kazekage's body I would assume they where already on there way to the exam. After killing him and taking his place he gave Gaaru's team the mission to kill Sasuke. At the same time Orochimaru's sound ninjas where told they where there to kill Sasuke as well. They where really there as a measuring stick to see how strong Sasuke had become. Only one other person knew what was really going on and that was Kabuto. Everyone want's Sasuke except Sasuke's brother. He wants Naruto.

OtterWally

10-26-2005, 09:34 PM

You made that sound kind of [censored] but it was a good summation none the less.

Arilou

10-27-2005, 02:44 AM

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You made that sound kind of [censored] but it was a good summation none the less.

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You know, you're not the only one who has pointed that out :p

Mr_Hellcat

10-27-2005, 03:14 AM

Well thank god that arc's over. And what was the first thing I did with this episode? Yep, skipped right ahead to the preview for next week to make sure it's not more curry of life crap. Thankfully (and I never thought I'd say this), it looks to be a Konohamaru ep/arc.

All in all this arc wasn't too bad.. but it wasn't that good either. I agree with someone else's assessment that the character design seemed a bit off from the usual Naruto fare. At least this week's episode's animation seemed more normal than usual.. ..all muppet Lee parts aside. Yeah, could've done without that. I like my Naruto flavored with just a tiny hint of over the top anime slapstick humor, not as much as this week.

Tsk, it's a shame they ruined a drunken fight by having it in this arc. Naruto's new moves were decent, though, considering they're Naruto's moves.

The_Chad

10-27-2005, 06:17 AM

I just got to work, so I'm about to download it and watch it. I'm hoping that Rock kicks some [censored].

OtterWally

10-27-2005, 07:16 PM

Yeah...

Wait, Chad?

gSOLO

10-29-2005, 06:29 PM

Kind of off topic but Cartoon Network version so far says Haku is a boy. Seems to be following the anime up to this point anyway. Not sure how it will end up...

Orochi

10-29-2005, 06:58 PM

I doubt they'll show the Chidori in action, that part is rather gory.

Also for those that don't get fansubs, and only read the manga, the end of the Zabusa arc has what appears to be an edit, but isn't, the anime just wussed out.

gSOLO

10-31-2005, 07:30 AM

Ya, I was just commenting on his gender. There was speculation that he would become a she after the show was Americanized.

The_Chad

10-31-2005, 07:32 AM

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Wait, Chad?

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What?

OtterWally

10-31-2005, 11:11 AM

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Wait, Chad?

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What?

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Why are you Morrrigan?

The_Chad

10-31-2005, 11:36 AM

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Wait, Chad?

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Why are you Morrrigan?

[/ QUOTE ]Long story. Something that happened while on Survivor.

OtterWally

10-31-2005, 11:40 AM

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Wait, Chad?

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What?

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Why are you Morrrigan?

[/ QUOTE ]Long story. Something that happened while on Survivor.

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"Eye of the Tiger" Survivor? Man, I heard you were wierd but that's weird.

The_Chad

10-31-2005, 11:46 AM

No, not that Survivor. The Survivor TV show, we are taping right now.

Ravenstorm_NA

11-02-2005, 04:15 PM

The Raiga/Ranmaru arc was decent, but Raiga got real old real quick. I'm waiting very patiently for it to start back onto the manga arcs.

Covnam

11-02-2005, 04:39 PM

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The Raiga/Ranmaru arc was decent, but Raiga got real old real quick. I'm waiting very patiently for it to start back onto the manga arcs.

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Anyone else think that Tenten's fight was poorly animated? While watching it made me think that they had cut the budget...

Anyway, I thought this anime-only arc was ok, the previous one was better, and the first one was the least enjoyable. Definately looking forward to the return to the manga.

Ninelives

11-02-2005, 04:41 PM

yeah, i agree, too bad we have a long time to the good stuff cames back around.

Next season FTW!

Mr_Hellcat

11-02-2005, 06:21 PM

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yeah, i agree, too bad we have a long time to the good stuff cames back around.

Next season FTW!

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Technically, technically it was said that Naruto being older would start with the beginning of next season.

So here's to hoping we get Kakashi's story before then.

The_Chad

11-02-2005, 07:56 PM

No, it said that the fillers would end at the end of the season, isn't Kakashi's story part of the manga?

Mr_Hellcat

11-02-2005, 08:42 PM

I'm so glad I did the research that I did.. here's what I found upon further clarification (I apologize for the smileys and such, this was taken from someone's blog who'd been to a lecture by someone from Studio Pierrot):

"Okay... there was this anime lecture of "Studio Pierrot" held at our university here in vienna (you can read the announcement here: http://www.at.emb-japan.go.jp/English/default.htm (Culture - Events) - I already posted about it in my journal )

It was today at night and the producer and owner of the Studio answered questions after the actual lecture. Actually I planned to ask when the fillers will end but I was a chicken -.-". Then someone else asked ^^"

At first the producer was kinda confused (it's not like we should be able to see the actual japanese episodes *COUGHS COUGHS* but I am glad no one told him that we are kinda downloading episodes... I would've killed this person).

Well... his answer was:
"Naruto will grow in the series. This part... with grown-up Naruto will air Spring 2006 in Japan - there'll also be a new movie next summer. And we are currently working on a movie for Bleach."

So I guess after this whole filler season (26 episodes - I guess the last few will be Kakashi Gaiden) there'll be the time jump ^^".

Half of the actual lecture was about Naruto really (but most of it was basic info and such ^^"). He was surprised that even in europe this anime/manga is so popular and he loved the fact that some of us were wearing Naruto headbands XD". He also talked about a ramen-eating Naruto event held in Japan this year in summer and told us that people were waiting 3 hours to get those ramen O_o. I am not sure which event he was talking about (maybe someone who lives in japan has more information?).

What he also told us is that Naruto is a "surprising" (haha) hit in america. At least his company was surprised but they loved that fact ^^".

Ah well... he also talked about a few other series and about anime in general... like how long it takes to get a single episode done - with planning and everything (2 months!!!).

And some people were asking if the studio works with the mangaka. He actually answered that question with: At first they are talking about the manga with the actual author... ask him about character design and everything. But most of the anime-related stuff is the studio's decision...

I am still angry at myself that I didn't ask if they are talking about fillers and original characters with the mangaka first.

Ah well... What I actually wanted to tell you was: The timejump won't happen before spring 2006 sadly...

And I am glad someone else asked this question... I was too afraid to do it -.-"."

Bold added by me for emphasis.