Blood of the Black Stream [Archive] - City of Heroes Forums

MrSmithy

06-13-2005, 08:00 PM

What we can speculate?

I think Blood of the black stream has a mystcial sound to it, so I suspect they're descendants of Mu, an ancient magic city who were evil.

Since all epic at's we now know of seem to be a mix of two, I suspect they'll be controller/ defender hybrids. Since that's the way magic users typically are: frail to the touch, but can command some serious powers to attack, defend, and stall the enemy.

NancY

06-13-2005, 08:25 PM

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What we know?

Stateman is a jerk.

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/speechless

Undeniably

06-13-2005, 08:49 PM

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I saw a mention of this as a pending vampiric powerset? Can anyone shed some light (or shadow) on this?

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Just a name. No info whatesover. It does sound magical or mystical, but all we know is that it's an epic AT. (That means it's not a powerset). That's all... we don't even know that it's only for villains... (wait, do we?).

bulldozercn

06-13-2005, 08:58 PM

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What we know?

Stateman is a jerk.

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/speechless

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psst look at his sig....
he's still upset about the erf-nay at-bay swingin his direction

Friggin_Taser

06-13-2005, 09:25 PM

Watch them nerf Peacebringers now, too, just because of his angsty hatred.

_Ilr_

06-13-2005, 09:35 PM

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What we know?

Stateman is a jerk.

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/speechless

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psst look at his sig....
he's still upset about the erf-nay at-bay swingin his direction

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True, he's not necessarily a Jerk, However; Statesman IS Tryant.
Really.
...When have you ever seen them together in the same place?

Ishtar

06-13-2005, 09:42 PM

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What we know?

Stateman is a jerk.

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/gapes

That was rude...

UncleChernobyl

06-13-2005, 10:24 PM

Every time i see talk about Blood of the Black Stream, my mind wanders off and thinks about the Blood of the Fold in the "Sword of Truth" novels by Terry Goodkind. Maybe Tobias Brogan will be the leader and run around cutting banelings' right nipples off!

I'm soooooo gonna roleplay that! :P

Quickshadow

06-13-2005, 10:46 PM

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Just a name. No info whatesover. It does sound magical or mystical, but all we know is that it's an epic AT. (That means it's not a powerset). That's all... we don't even know that it's only for villains... (wait, do we?).

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It seem unlikely that this would be a villainous AT as it was listed some time ago as one of the epic ATs for City of Heroes, not City of Villains.

dispatch_NA

06-13-2005, 11:23 PM

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/gapes

That was rude...

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/gapes

I think it was a joke. Anyway, I'm glad to see its not vampiric, that sounds like it would just end up being something like dark melee.

Tal_N

06-14-2005, 03:49 AM

A little research of mine has revealed that there is a phonamon known as the Black Stream, it is infact a strong undersea current which extends from Taiwan up past Japan. There are four others in the world it seems part of the major currents that cause the rise and fall in sea temperatures.

With that in mind I strongly suspect that the Blood of the Blackstream is linked to the Coralax, if there are four undersea races that rule over parts of the world then maybe a conflict has arisen which threatens to alter the world climate because the currents would become out of balance. Maybe the Winter Lord event was caused by something going wrong with the streams near Paragon City and the change of the sea's tides has also forced the Lusca to take harbor in Independance Port.

The Coralax and the Blood of the Black Stream might be very similar in concept to the Peacebringers and the Warshades. Namely two different but similar ATs that fight on the same side.

Vr2LRose

06-14-2005, 05:13 AM

my vote is that BotBS will be some form of odd looking AIs
PC bots if you will the black stream being oil, yes it sounds uber mystical... but that could be to throw us off the scent after all its the only one we have NOTHING about.

I don't think it will be another aquatic since stateman orginally said 1 avarial and one aquatic and we know whitch ones those are, there have been several theries about undead and vampiric.. i doubt that will be the case... especially since there have been a couple replys to those trains of thought implying no( of course they could be trying to trick us....

so in conclution im hoping BotBS will bring us a new look to all the taxibots out there.......

Akhenahten

06-14-2005, 05:36 AM

Makes me wonder how much Big Trouble in Little China the Devs have watched.

TheRetropolitan

06-14-2005, 05:49 AM

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Makes me wonder how much Big Trouble in Little China the Devs have watched.

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"You mean oil?"
"No, I mean black blood of earth."

:)

Pickle

06-14-2005, 06:20 AM

I did a little research too. From this page alone (http://www.bbc.co.uk/lincolnshire/unexplained/sick_building.shtml) , We can see "Black Stream" tied to many of the words commonly used in COH--tying them all together sounds like a negative energy controller that is linked to animals.

Its also a Brazilian Hotel..which would lend credence to the idea that BotBS is an Innkeeper that knows Capoiera.

Priesteater

06-14-2005, 06:22 AM

Egg Chin: You will come out no MORE!!

Burton: What, Egg!?? Huh? What will come out no more!?

The greatest movie of all time...next to 'Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon', of course. ;)

Could BotBS be a kind of tattoo magic...We need more tattoo op...some tattoo options.

Dark_Tempest

06-14-2005, 06:30 AM

woo-hoo! I think we just showed YOU were the Jerk, not States!

Only 2nd person to make the IGNORE list
congrats!

Mental_Giant

06-14-2005, 06:30 AM

Blood of the Black Stream reminds me too much of The Black Goat with a Thousand Young from Lovecrafian lore. I'm thinking it's some kind of Cthulhoid thing. ;)

Snorii

06-14-2005, 06:36 AM

Lycanthropy?

IanTheM1

06-14-2005, 06:59 AM

There's a I4 updated plaque in Freedom Corps. in the Magi office that states something like "And the blood of the Mu shall rise again to wash over the earth."

Wasn't there speculation that Mu were in fact a part if not the entire population of Atlantis?

Hermod

06-14-2005, 07:00 AM

My vote is with the robot concept. But I'm functioning on different logic.

My logic is as follows (be very afriad)

Peacebringer-Natural
Warshade-Science
Corlax-Mutant (I figure if there is an aquatic race they will some how be related to use, but completely different...you know what I mean)
Avilian-Magic (When I heard they would be the winged AT I thought angelic and mystical)
Blood of the Blakc Stream- Only one we know nothing about, but we only have one origin not in use. Think about it won't you.

BlackSly

06-14-2005, 08:06 AM

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Stateman is a jerk.

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/speechless

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The post seems to have disappeared... who's the imbecilidjiot, if you please, so I know who will be first ever on my ignore list?

Drakos

06-14-2005, 08:23 AM

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The post seems to have disappeared... who's the imbecilidjiot, if you please, so I know who will be first ever on my ignore list?

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Actually the entire post didn't disappear, it was edited by CuppaJo to remove the totally uncalled for insult. the remainder of the post is still there.

Inazuma

06-14-2005, 08:27 AM

If ya want 'vampric' powersets, play a dark defender, dark scrapper or a warshade. CoH has enough vampric heroes.

PlasmaStream

06-14-2005, 08:29 AM

Red_Eye_NA

06-14-2005, 08:45 AM

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Every time i see talk about Blood of the Black Stream, my mind wanders off and thinks about the Blood of the Fold in the "Sword of Truth" novels by Terry Goodkind. Maybe Tobias Brogan will be the leader and run around cutting banelings' right nipples off!

I'm soooooo gonna roleplay that! :P

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You'll have to find your mage some 'pretties' inspirations before you can charm them though =P

Escher

06-14-2005, 08:57 AM

You know what I think of when I hear that name?

Jack Burton: What is that stuff Egg?
Egg Chen: Black Blood of the Earth
Jack Burton: You mean Oil?
Egg Chen: I mean Black Blood of the Earth!

-Escher

SweetThang

06-14-2005, 09:13 AM

Technology induced toxic DE-like heroes! Yeah!! Like The Toxic Avenger!!! Mop in hand...cleaning up crime, with a toxic sludge filled hand of justice! :D

The environment has taken it's revenge upon the very technology that defiled it. The Blood of the Black Stream flows through these beings. Using the toxins that created them, they seek to punish the evil corporations that pollute the environment.

Animus - Altered animals - Offense Primary/ Defense Secondary
Vegalians - Altered vegetation - Defense Primary / Offense Secondary

Ok...so I'm dreaming. :)

Drakos

06-14-2005, 09:37 AM

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If ya want 'vampric' powersets, play a dark defender, dark scrapper or a warshade. CoH has enough vampric heroes.

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I don't particularily want a vamperic powerset or AT.

Jaycemyth

06-14-2005, 09:49 AM

I had been mulling the BOtBS over in my mind lately. It does sound very "secret society" like. The only thing that made any sense to me was something like the Yin to the Tsoo's Yang. Perhaps samurai, dedicated to the destruction of the Tsoo. Just speculation though.

Radionuclide

06-14-2005, 09:59 AM

My thoughts on Blood of the Black Stream, which were largely shouted down by others before, but still remain my thoughts are that they are Pirate Based

Something we were told with I5 is that to think Errol Flynn

well that does mean Archery per Robin Hood with him and Olivia DeHaviland.

However, Errol Flynn also did multiple movies based on Piracy and being at sea, such as well "The Sea Hawk" and "Captain Blood"

and the name is to me reminiscent of many "comic" style organizations and brotherhoods (rarely sisterhoods) of pirates.

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The only flaw in your logic is that the Blood of the Black Stream is not being released with I5.

We know now that Archery will be in I5. At least to me, the hint of think Errol Flynn was in reference to the role he was particularly famous for, Robin Hood.

--Rad

Dayraven

06-14-2005, 10:01 AM

You can all stop your wild speculation. I have received definitive word from a thoroughly inaccurate source with detailed informtaion regarding the nature and powersets of this new Archetype. To start with, the name Blood of the Black Stream is obviously in no way related to or a derivative of an Old English kenning. Now for those of you who don't know, Old English kennings were descriptive strings of words used to poetically identify or define certain well known things or places or people. For instance, the spear man and the whale's road were both kennings for the ocean. The references and associations should be obvious.

In like fashion, Blood of the Black Stream can be broken down into an associaitive and poetic allusion to a creature we all know and love. The capitalization of the word blood is an archaic reference not simply to blood, but is an indication of noble blood, also called blue blood. The "black stream" is clearly a reference to the underground waters of myth that fed the fey children of the earth. It is obviously indicative of fairy creatures tied the power of the earth for their sustenance and life. Now, if we look at these too associative descriptions together, blue blood and earth fairy, we we arrive at a singular undeniably fallible conclusion. Smurfs. The new epic AT will in fact be the beloved three-apple high, blue skinned heroes of our Saturday mornings.

Now as yet the smurf powersets are still being desgined, or so my inside sources tell me. However, I have been assured that the Primary set will be controllerish in nature, utilizing an array of "alchemy" powers to induce euphoria, malaise, hallucinations and psychosis to incapacitate your enemies. The Seconday power set supposedly involes "smurfing" things, but as no one seems to have slightest clue what that means. Best guess is that it involves apples.

Jaycemyth

06-14-2005, 10:08 AM

Eureka!

LaserJesus

06-14-2005, 10:11 AM

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The new epic AT will in fact be the beloved three-apple high, blue skinned heroes of our Saturday mornings.

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SMURF NO!

Furry_Milk

06-14-2005, 10:11 AM

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There's a I4 updated plaque in Freedom Corps. in the Magi office that states something like "And the blood of the Mu shall rise again to wash over the earth."

Wasn't there speculation that Mu were in fact a part if not the entire population of Atlantis?

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Actually it says: "The blood of Mu shall rise, and it shall wash across the ocean and the land. The power that lies dormant within these humble rocks cannot remain so forever." If you're wondering where to find that go to Galaxy City and to Freedom Corps and then in M.A.G.I. then there will be a plate with rock hands behind the person there and it will tell you what I typed. :D

Furry_Milk

06-14-2005, 10:23 AM

It is obviously indicative of fairy creatures tied the power of the earth for their sustenance and life. Now, if we look at these too associative descriptions together, blue blood and earth fairy, we we arrive at a singular undeniably fallible conclusion. Smurfs. The new epic AT will in fact be the beloved three-apple high, blue skinned heroes of our Saturday mornings.

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LOL! SMURFS! Man I can imagine every hero in Paragon looking like Smurfs under Atlas grouped together singing the Smurf theme song. Then Papa Smurf come out on the plaq regarding Atlas's tale and all at once the singing stops and every Smurf's little face will be smiling and happy as Papa Smurf says: "Good morning my young Smurflings!" And all the Smurf's will scream: "Good morning Papa Smurf!" lol that would be hilarous.

Summer_Heat

06-14-2005, 12:05 PM

Begins to think of the horrors of the dirty smurf song being spammed on broadcast until all the non-smurfs /petition them....

/e shudder

I think that BotBS will be associated with either water or climate, like storm...possibly the electric controllers or something like? They have to be 'heroic' somehow so that personally rules out pirates or vampires...

I really don't like the idea of vampires...the last thing this game needs is a bunch of goth-wannabes running around doing the shadow-puppet bird trick (if you don't know, check the Napoleon Dynamite Happy Hands scene towards the end) saying, "When I do this it means I'm in bat form."

Oh, I strongly disagree with the idea it will be robots...just look at the acronym... BotBS.... Bot BS. and we all know what BS hints at.

rossi

06-14-2005, 12:19 PM

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Vampiric? News to me.

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It's too bad you spelled it like that. I bet if you had asked about Vampyric he would have known what you're talking about.

States can be funny like that (but I wouldn't say he's a jerk).

NancY

06-14-2005, 12:28 PM

The Blood of the Black Stream is an epic AT?

The Kheldians are an epic AT.

Kheldians are called Khelds.

Blood of the Black Stream will be called Bloods.

Will the Crips be far behind?

:eek:

Dwimble

06-14-2005, 12:49 PM

I don't know why, but "Blood of the Black Stream" has always sounded very "piratey" to me...as in "Aaaargh, we be the Blood of the Black Stream, Matey!"

Shiver me timbers.

VivianSteel

06-14-2005, 01:20 PM

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I don't know why, but "Blood of the Black Stream" has always sounded very "piratey" to me...as in "Aaaargh, we be the Blood of the Black Stream, Matey!"

Shiver me timbers.

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Pirates of Dark Water?

Dwimble

06-14-2005, 02:04 PM

Don't get me wrong...I don't actually believe that it has anything to do with pirates, it has just always sounded very piratey to me. Besides, I can't think of any justification for pirates being an epic archtype in City of Heroes anyway. City of Villains, certainly.

VivianSteel

06-14-2005, 02:48 PM

I know, I was joking...

/e promises to never become a comedian.

Abalest

06-14-2005, 03:15 PM

The hands acquire a shaking, the shaking becomes a warning....

Having started to drink coffee, 'Black Stream' made me think java.
Maybe it's an AT that derives its power from caffiene?
It's be like a super speedster with super reflexes!
And maximum height would be reduced!

Edit:
Goes without saying that CuppaJo will be interested in testing(or the basis for) this AT...

Kidding!

MrSmithy

06-14-2005, 05:29 PM

I tried to edit my post but it seems I can't for some reason. So I have to make a new post that undoubtedly no one will read since it's five pages away.

Stateman is a jerk. :D

When I said this, I meant in a sarcastic, because he constantly teases us with vague talk of what's to come. I don't actually think he's a jerk. i'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression. and will endeavour to be clearer from now on.

And on the subject of my /regen scrapper, I'm happy with him. He turned 50 just before the nerf bat started swinging, so i never played him very much in I4. and even after words the few times I played him, most noticeably in a hami raid and exemped down to the level 34 Terra volta trial), he still seemed all right,

LivingHellfire

06-14-2005, 07:42 PM

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Dude, I told you like, last week. Remember, we went down to Sunset and had a latté. You ordered biscotti and I said "that stuff'll kill you" and you laughed and threatened to nerf Regen again.

Man... you always do this! :mad:

MrQuizzles

06-14-2005, 07:44 PM

Wait, a blend between a controller and a defender? Wouldn't that be...a controller?

Anyways, I think the negative energy control idea is neat, but I'm also hoping for a tad more than just that. Possibly some crazy secondary or something, who knows.

Remember, folks, sarcastically or not, Statesman is in no way a jerk. Although he can be annoyingly evil at times with all the vagueness and teasing and letting us drown ourselves in our own anxiousness and speculation. That's true evil that only a master could pull off!

FrostyBot

06-14-2005, 07:57 PM

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Don't get me wrong...I don't actually believe that it has anything to do with pirates, it has just always sounded very piratey to me. Besides, I can't think of any justification for pirates being an epic archtype in City of Heroes anyway. City of Villains, certainly.

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The Tsoo have ninjas. Isn't that enough justification right there? We know ninjas and pirates are eternally in opposition...

:)

MisterNick

06-15-2005, 08:27 AM

"We are not ninjas! We are Chinese! Ninjas are Japanese!", Wu, Brain Smasher . . . a Love Story.

Anyway, why are we all assuming that the Coralax are the aquatic arechtype? A quick search shows not a single instance of a red name saying anything of the sort, only folks inferring it back when we only knew two names of new archetypes.

Maybe I missed something someone was told at a con, but it sounds much more plausible to me that the BotBS is the aquatic type and that the Coralax is something else. Corax is a Greek word for crow, but we already know that they're not winged, so perhaps it's a seer type, kind of a combination of "corax" and "parallax".

P.s. Statesman is an Incarnate of Democracy, methinks. Hence the references to Greece.

Rubber_Dog

06-15-2005, 09:11 AM

I am very concerned that we have established BotBS as the acronym for the Blood of the Black Stream....the Devs need to change the name of the AT to Blood of our Black Stream

Pickle

06-15-2005, 11:23 AM

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Anyway, why are we all assuming that the Coralax are the aquatic arechtype? A quick search shows not a single instance of a red name saying anything of the sort, only folks inferring it back when we only knew two names of new archetypes.

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From Stratics (http://coh.stratics.com/content/dev/hoc/hoc020805.php) :

Brekkee - *MedicofDeathx* Statesman: Can you talk about the new "Epic" AT's that will be coming soon? Will they be in Issue 4? Also, will there be any new baddies such as Hamidon to come?
Statesman - I can at least say - Coralax - think underwater - Avilan - think wings...

MrSmithy

06-15-2005, 12:36 PM

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Wait, a blend between a controller and a defender? Wouldn't that be...a controller?

Anyways, I think the negative energy control idea is neat, but I'm also hoping for a tad more than just that. Possibly some crazy secondary or something, who knows.

Remember, folks, sarcastically or not, Statesman is in no way a jerk. Although he can be annoyingly evil at times with all the vagueness and teasing and letting us drown ourselves in our own anxiousness and speculation. That's true evil that only a master could pull off!

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Actually... no. Controller powersets are typically Primary: Holds/pets, sec: buff/debuff. Defenders have prim: buff/ debuff and sec: attacks. Controllers lack the ranged attacks.

I'm thinking BotBS will have a primary consisting of holds and attacks, and maybe a pet. the secondary will probably be a buff/debuff.

I don't think they'll have any sort of crazy secondary. Like the kheldians, they'll probably just have the same powers as other AT's, but combined and with somewhat different animations and combat effects. I suspect their attacks will probably be from all blaster sets except AR, so they'll be able to shoot lightning bolts and fireballs and ice cones. Maybe some dark defender added in. That's how I think they'll be unique, or epic.

That and they'll have a magic missle spell. It's a one hit kill against D3's. :D Realizes no one got that joke either:: :( Anyone see summoner geeks or 8bit DnD?

And so i'm corrected. States is a tease.

WiseWulf

06-15-2005, 01:15 PM

What we have seen in kheldians then new calamari AT?

Well they have armour, they have blaster attack and they have melee attacks.
That is basically a blapper with armour.
Some minor heals holds and pets.
Much like blappers can be once they have new epics.

The only two truly unique aspects, is the reverse leadership power, that instead of you making the whoe team stronger, the team is making you stronger.
We have seen shape shifting, go blaster or tank.

And we have seen unique mobs to make gplay more debtful..
Well I mean depthful that is.

Well in my opinion since kheldians cover the blapper and armour aspects already so well.

It is likely to assume the new class would be controllerish, perhaps with some scraper powers?
More than likely I see it being similar to ddd in melee.

Or dm/da with more debuff and control.

It seems to me the new epic at will be group oriented.
And since they need to be different enoug to be interesting, it would only make sense they would be more defenderish.
And perhaps more pet oriented.

MrSmithy

06-15-2005, 06:48 PM

Todays paragon times seems to suggest mystical matters are very much on the minds of the devs...

Rockmar

06-17-2005, 03:00 PM

here are a few of my speculations for what the BotBS shall be:

Spirits(or something of the like) of Mu sorcerors that inhabited Atlantis
- accounts for the water (under water black streams)idea since atlantis was on water and sunk into water
- one idea was that atlantis floated above the water, meaning a magical source or sources had to levitate it, which goes with the controllerish and magical theories
- Since as far as i know there is a lot of vagueness about the Mu, they could wield powers no one would expect, maybe theyre/were a secret society in atlantis that practiced darker arts to learn more about the enemies weaknesses(see the azuria interview) and were banished.
- or maybe they were Oranbegan mystics that reformed and switched sides to the Mu lending their powerful dark magics to their aid
- covers a lot of the above theories

- maybe they were atlantean(or Mu or w/e) sailors that were kind of like heroes that saw the what the rest of the world was doing to the Earth and they tried to do what they thought was right and were seen as pirates by the rest of the non atlantean population(which accounts for the connections a previous poster made about pirates, but gives them a heroic side)

i just wish the devs would give some sort of "hot or cold" indication or something.

Spartus

06-20-2005, 03:09 PM

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Vampiric? News to me.

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Dude, I told you like, last week. Remember, we went down to Sunset and had a latté. You ordered biscotti and I said "that stuff'll kill you" and you laughed and threatened to nerf Regen again.

Man... you always do this! :mad:

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That had me laughing so hard... :)

Furio

06-20-2005, 05:17 PM

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"We are not ninjas! We are Chinese! Ninjas are Japanese!", Wu, Brain Smasher . . . a Love Story.

Anyway, why are we all assuming that the Coralax are the aquatic arechtype? A quick search shows not a single instance of a red name saying anything of the sort, only folks inferring it back when we only knew two names of new archetypes.

Maybe I missed something someone was told at a con, but it sounds much more plausible to me that the BotBS is the aquatic type and that the Coralax is something else. Corax is a Greek word for crow, but we already know that they're not winged, so perhaps it's a seer type, kind of a combination of "corax" and "parallax".

P.s. Statesman is an Incarnate of Democracy, methinks. Hence the references to Greece.

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As mentioned earlier, States told us to think "underwater" in reference to the coralax, and as revealed in issue 2 of the Top Cow run on CoH,*spoiler, though I'm sure most have seen it by now*

States is Zeus Incarnate, hence the references to Greece ;)

Rockmar

06-22-2005, 12:41 PM

ohh you are very lucky my friend. very lucky indeed.

just finished before i read your post, almost read it first :)

KokopelliJoe

06-22-2005, 01:03 PM

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My thoughts on Blood of the Black Stream, which were largely shouted down by others before, but still remain my thoughts are that they are Pirate Based

Something we were told with I5 is that to think Errol Flynn

well that does mean Archery per Robin Hood with him and Olivia DeHaviland.

However, Errol Flynn also did multiple movies based on Piracy and being at sea, such as well "The Sea Hawk" and "Captain Blood"

and the name is to me reminiscent of many "comic" style organizations and brotherhoods (rarely sisterhoods) of pirates.

Just a thought or two.

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The comment about Errol Flynn was about a new *power set* (most likely scrapper it would be logical to assume)

The Blood of the Black Stream is a new *Archetype*

Perhaps that is why your idea was met with resistance previously?

Sailboat

06-24-2005, 08:43 AM

If I looked down one morning and saw blood in any black stream, I'd call the doctor immediately.

Sailboat

Premium

07-08-2005, 10:44 PM

The "Blood" aspects makes it sound like some heriditary thing... like a lineage heritage... maybe it has to do with CoT stories and Mu and all that magic stuff.
Could be an EAT of magic origin...

Maybe you get to do heroes like Zatanna, Doctor Fate, Doctor Strange, Mysterio

OR
it's another underwater species... enemies of the Coralax

Daikon

07-06-2008, 09:37 AM

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I saw a mention of this as a pending vampiric powerset? Can anyone shed some light (or shadow) on this?

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Yes, this is the new AT for villains and heroes.

-it will be based off of bram stoker's dracula
-it will have amazing necromantic powers

UberGuy

07-06-2008, 09:46 AM

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I saw a mention of this as a pending vampiric powerset? Can anyone shed some light (or shadow) on this?

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Yes, this is the new AT for villains and heroes.

-it will be based off of bram stoker's dracula
-it will have amazing necromantic powers

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Necroooomania.

Schismatrix

07-06-2008, 10:16 AM

Now this was several years ago, and was mostly stated by people as being based on conversations with some of the Devs, but the last semi-official/hearsay details i recall about the BotBS was that they were intended to be shapeshifters (more the stretchy types, not multiform) and were going to be Egyptian-themed. The former would obviously be a bit tricky with the current engine, but the latter is altogether plausible.

i also recall the discussions pointing out that Statesman is fond of creating Egyptian-themed groups. Something that isn't all that significant anymore since he's not part of the current Dev team, but an Egyptian origin would likely be part of the CoX story bible. [color= red]:eek:

Dark_Voltage

07-06-2008, 01:16 PM

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It is obviously indicative of fairy creatures tied the power of the earth for their sustenance and life. Now, if we look at these too associative descriptions together, blue blood and earth fairy, we we arrive at a singular undeniably fallible conclusion. Smurfs.

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I would only be able to get behind this if Gargomel (with Azrael) is added as an AV. :D